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RE: proliferation of reference roles in the dpub aria spec.

From: Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 13:38:23 +0000
To: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
CC: W3C PF - DPUB Joint Task Force <public-dpub-aria@w3.org>, PF <public-pfwg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <46739F12637CC94E82F75FF874E4A1473B752674@CITESMBX6.ad.uillinois.edu>
I agree, we should try to use existing markup (e.g. rel attribute) before adding new aria-* properties.


Jon


From: James Craig [mailto:jcraig@apple.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 8:03 PM
To: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
Cc: W3C PF - DPUB Joint Task Force <public-dpub-aria@w3.org>; PF <public-pfwg@w3.org>
Subject: Re: proliferation of reference roles in the dpub aria spec.

Proliferation of a new aria-* attribute to avoid role proliferation? I haven't yet seen any non-academic reason to make these anything other than standard links.

You could add a @rel value if you like.
<a href="#" rel="bibliography">

I don't see a compelling reason for a new role or a new attribute.

James


On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com<mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com>> wrote:

As I said, I have had somewhat of a concern about the numerous definition of roles that are essentially links. The Coga task force wants to introduce and aria-destination attribute for links to create standard destinations users would go to to enable consistent style of the UI for familiarity to the user.

See the aria-destination attribute from coga: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/links-buttons.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__rawgit.com_w3c_coga_master_issue-2Dpapers_links-2Dbuttons.html&d=AwMFAg&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=PTUU3A-rlaO9MLoADNR5ZLP4MN07464oZJOjtFmHuQE&s=RR1mQwAzCvsIn6biKJRzh4y5tSoms3jExQ7PW-LeLwQ&e=>

So for these roles I would prefer to have:

<div role="link" aria-destination="biblioentry"> as opposed to http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html#dpub-biblioref<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rawgit.com_w3c_aria_master_aria_dpub.html-23dpub-2Dbiblioref&d=AwMFAg&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=PTUU3A-rlaO9MLoADNR5ZLP4MN07464oZJOjtFmHuQE&s=HsuejDRI_HgwZ_DMgOPt3W3gIwxC2U-PJdOs7yB2fNw&e=>

similarly:

<div role="link" aria-destination="glossentry" as opposed to http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html#dpub-glossref<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rawgit.com_w3c_aria_master_aria_dpub.html-23dpub-2Dglossref&d=AwMFAg&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=PTUU3A-rlaO9MLoADNR5ZLP4MN07464oZJOjtFmHuQE&s=mXKjFCwJdHcblaRMMTD47M1CJZBEow_7vUxDzlY4k8U&e=>

This would cause us to start folding in some of the coga features into ARIA 1.1.

Feedback? Coga has similar needs.

Rich



Rich Schwerdtfeger
Received on Friday, 9 October 2015 13:39:59 UTC

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