Re: Checkbox example for ARIA Authoring practices issues

Steve,

I did some testing with VoiceOver in Safari 9 on OS X 10.10 Yosemite. Legend is spoken when I navigate to the fieldset or legend, but not when focused on a radio button. If I make the radio’s in your example checkbox, nothing changes.

—Michiel

> On 16 Nov 2015, at 16:32, Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu> wrote:
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> Steve,
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> I have done some more testing with NVDA, it seems that the grouping label using fieldset/legend is not read consistently, but it is not simple to identify when it won’t.
>  
> Jon
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> From: Gunderson, Jon R [mailto:jongund@illinois.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 8:54 AM
> To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
> Cc: PF <public-pfwg@w3.org>
> Subject: RE: Checkbox example for ARIA Authoring practices issues
>  
> Steve,
>  
> I did some more testing this morning, it seems the problem is related to the type of form controls inside the fieldset/legend.
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> For NVDA 2015.3 it reads the grouping label (e.g. legend) when the input types are radio button, but not when the input types are a checkbox.
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> But I think there needs to be more testing to verify the exact behavior.
>  
> Jon
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>  
> From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com <mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>] 
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 9:59 AM
> To: Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu <mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>>
> Cc: PF <public-pfwg@w3.org <mailto:public-pfwg@w3.org>>
> Subject: Re: Checkbox example for ARIA Authoring practices issues
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>  
> On 13 November 2015 at 18:39, Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu <mailto:jongund@illinois.edu>> wrote:
> Fieldset/Legend technique for grouping label:
> NVDA 2015.3 on Windows 10 with Firefox (version 42), Internet Explorer 11, Chrome (Version 46)
> Grouping label not read for any browser
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> I tested using same AT/browser combos on a different page: http://thepaciellogroup.github.io/AT-browser-tests/test-files/fieldset-legend.html <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__thepaciellogroup.github.io_AT-2Dbrowser-2Dtests_test-2Dfiles_fieldset-2Dlegend.html&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=REZD8fc2AwufInstfW3L5jSLVS8bjZtAodDOhat7yAI&m=TN_-e7n4yZvb9kdamzV-6Wxal2bS2NW-vASzzSoIhns&s=zC9Ov5h2vnOL3NYYNkKLtSSLWztSRiRsMpPCcC8Zok4&e=>
> If i arrowed through the content, the legend text was announced when it recieved virtual focus.
> 
> If i tabbed to the radio buttons, the legend/feildset info was announced as below for all browsers:
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> Which version of HTML do you use?  grouping
> HTML4  radio button  not checked
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> Regards
> 
> SteveF
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