- From: Fred Esch <fesch@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 08:31:51 -0500
- To: "Chaals McCathie Nevile" <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
- Cc: "public-digipub-ig@w3.org" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>, public-pfwg@w3.org
- Message-Id: <201511121401.tACE1TJq021142@d01av02.pok.ibm.com>
+1` Regards, Fred Esch Watson, IBM, W3C Accessibility IBM Watson Watson Release Management and Quality From: "Chaals McCathie Nevile" <chaals@yandex-team.ru> To: public-pfwg@w3.org, "public-digipub-ig@w3.org" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org> Date: 11/12/2015 06:23 AM Subject: Re: FW: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1 specification On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:42:47 +0100, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10 November 2015 at 16:17, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote: > >> But, Rich, Details can be used for all kinds of things, including >> advertising, as Charles points out. We need a way to know that this >> particular Details is a description, as opposed to some other in the >> page. >> > > The aria-roledescription attribute could be used to disambiguate > http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#aria-roledescription Yes. Except it provides a human-readable description rather than something that can be used to provide consistent user interface in a browser, and it's a pretty clunky approach. I'm not a fan of the proposal. cheers -- Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex chaals@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com --1__ BBF468DFD9C4E58f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF468DFD9C4E5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline <html><body><p>+1`<br><br><br> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr valign="top"><td width="473" colspan="2" valign="middle"><div align="center"><font size="4" face="Verdana">Regards, <br><br>Fred Esch <br>Watson, IBM, W3C Accessibility</font></div></td></tr> <tr valign="top"><td width="130" valign="middle"><img src="cid:1__=0ABBF468DFD9C4E58f9e8a93df938690918c0AB@" width="163" height="23" alt="IBM Watson" align="bottom"></td><td width="342" valign="middle"><font size="4" face="Verdana">Watson Release Management and Quality </font></td></tr></table><br><br><img width="16" height="16" src="cid:2__=0ABBF468DFD9C4E58f9e8a93df938690918c0AB@" border="0" alt="Inactive hide details for "Chaals McCathie Nevile" ---11/12/2015 06:23:10 AM---On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:42:47 +0100, Steve Faulkn"><font color="#424282">"Chaals McCathie Nevile" ---11/12/2015 06:23:10 AM---On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:42:47 +0100, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:</font><br><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">From: </font><font size="2">"Chaals McCathie Nevile" <chaals@yandex-team.ru></font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">To: </font><font size="2">public-pfwg@w3.org, "public-digipub-ig@w3.org" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org></font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Date: </font><font size="2">11/12/2015 06:23 AM</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Subject: </font><font size="2">Re: FW: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1 specification</font><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade style="color:#8091A5; "><br><br><br><tt>On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:42:47 +0100, Steve Faulkner <br><faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>> On 10 November 2015 at 16:17, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:<br>><br>>> But, Rich, Details can be used for all kinds of things, including<br>>> advertising, as Charles points out. We need a way to know that this<br>>> particular Details is a description, as opposed to some other in the<br>>> page.<br>>><br>><br>> The aria-roledescription attribute could be used to disambiguate<br>> </tt><tt><a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#aria-roledescription">http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#aria-roledescription</a></tt><tt><br><br>Yes.<br><br>Except it provides a human-readable description rather than something that <br>can be used to provide consistent user interface in a browser, and it's a <br>pretty clunky approach.<br><br>I'm not a fan of the proposal.<br><br>cheers<br><br>-- <br>Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex<br> chaals@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at </tt><tt><a href="http://yandex.com">http://yandex.com</a></tt><tt><br><br></tt><br><BR> </body></html> --1__ BBF468DFD9C4E58f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF468DFD9C4E5-- --0__ BBF468DFD9C4E58f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF468DFD9C4E5 Content-type: image/gif; name="0A801673.gif" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="0A801673.gif" Content-ID: <1__ BBF468DFD9C4E58f9e8a93df938690918c0AB@> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAKMAAAAXCAMAAABQ6Q/RAAADAFBMVEXIx8cxLS5MSUrW1dXx8fE/ Ozzj4+N2c3SRj49oZWaEgYKsq6uenZ26ubmbm5v29vZ7e3tTU1M7OzsfHx/FxcX39/eamppmZmaR j5AgICCqqqrR0dFaV1gAAAAjHyD///8AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAADe7fL7AAADE0lEQVR4nM2WiW7kIAyGTbhz9O6eCL//U6bYGJJOst2dlaqppUm4 +fhtnAH8+gb7sroZxodWGZfA5UxP52+Ic2qVEbLDxujTLXnOTHydSDxNdC7DR+NvYQK02PLQYBDn z5dRw04GAPibKIBec2GKuZjyrtbosVZr72J397Xyc+suPshsiOUBvRb4xavlzYoA2tI+XEQTFDfT rkCFiFLIec8Y82jQ0dIhjOU5lmWGa254owKe/J5xPDBqdYHLphZBm08Zi5/nOnEsEUmHwiG6cx3X Z6k8ID5c6kgHHC4YlblkJHcNlotO7Xp0RVP6lLFIPtTmsuDQDn+FGT4YTy3OXcTFEy85VUYonQMQ WHWopSIdR83aTYRs5bBD9cz+VjBjyI3RbVEkSu7ed/XF8r18ExXF25ZJiWnk/RhD1S1JlFT5mLGc B0KYNJG5rtEkLhjPGUVz32Lh2iw+k68WnhqJjeZTldqBr27dFkCz2mlyooxcac0zJUyWM8YKFnn8 KLofdFy7brvwXLctZs+6KScOTrSr6uft2y4SmJqa+tUcxPeKY/iEcc4+W8qNfYUrdSTtYvnRrfE1 rgk1QOqBs207ideoc2gLJGFMtEQ6YQy53OvwA1DifmM86PhQKxSZ66+uI/o6zdVcMmwtRHrBiGbm XWysp2FTjbERHHUEPXAgtDRxrY5Vfsvph6PebGnFvmcswSnp2PcDcECPdYzkz2M8ziBH9rtl8c/3 Gh/X9TtuOhphWyToedNUzEp0boyZ8zQNnHLrXIhLy5jplBHVINnHmKj+415Lamt+QAdWDkphmcC5 mh8lodvqNsOqDyHw5GjamHjKGLKEj66LuK7i5XfmsVbwdX1+leL9vTiLIiTy8qFFjHwygjQA7j46 sUc/oxpoY4w9YzRW+RbsZeJ135mnJ9ErCuv8T4yqCGH6zYoGOyOXDowSqJ5yRtq6jzq2/z2IL7+l H58eaWxMiULLlRjUOCU2+kfKNkkDuam8KJP6eqPB0+eIU7PexswpjQdG5AAJEOL1X+vPt/7/cuLg UP7L/QtHfANvSEKvsxvttAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg= --0__ BBF468DFD9C4E58f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF468DFD9C4E5 Content-type: image/gif; name="graycol.gif" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="graycol.gif" Content-ID: <2__ BBF468DFD9C4E58f9e8a93df938690918c0AB@> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 R0lGODlhEAAQAKECAMzMzAAAAP///wAAACH5BAEAAAIALAAAAAAQABAAAAIXlI+py+0PopwxUbpu ZRfKZ2zgSJbmSRYAIf4fT3B0aW1pemVkIGJ5IFVsZWFkIFNtYXJ0U2F2ZXIhAAA7 --0__ BBF468DFD9C4E58f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF468DFD9C4E5--
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