Re: aria-rowindex and aria-colindex

This seems wrong to me - ARIA is overriding the native semantics.

The use-case I had in mind was more like this, where the entire table isn't
rendered, and the rows or columns that are rendered are a subset of the
virtual set of all rows and columns.

<table>
  <caption>Showing columns 24 through 26</caption>
  <thead>
    <th aria-colindex=24>X</th>
    <th aria-colindex=25>Y</th>
    <th aria-colindex=26>Z</th>
  </thead>
  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <td aria-colindex="24">Xylophone</td>
      <td aria-colindex="25">Yak</td>
      <td aria-colindex="26">Zebra</td>
    </tr>
  </tbody>
</table>

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Alexander Surkov <
surkov.alexander@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not sure, maybe something like this.
>
> <table>
>   <thead>
>     <th>field1</th>
>     <th>field2</th>
>     <th>field3</th>
>   </thead>
>   <tbody>
>   <tr aria-colindex="2">
>     <td>only 3d column is loaded</td>
>   </tr>
>   </tbody>
> </table>
>
> I'm not sure what is use case for aria-colindex. If it's supposed to make
> holes in table (aka not yet loaded cells) and they can be anywhere in table
> then aria-colindex is suitable on cell role. If it's supposed to "skip"
> cells from beginning like spreadsheet then it's good to have it on row role
> or even on table role. Do we have examples other than spreadsheet?
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Alex.
>>
>> Could you please provide a quick example of an ARIA non-interactive
>> table showing aria-colindex as a property of the row?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> --joanie
>>
>> On 01/27/2015 02:58 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
>> > tables are not different from grids in that means I think so if table is
>> > not supposed to have holes then aria-colindex can be hosted by row.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com
>> > <mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     On 01/13/2015 01:54 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
>> >     > Anyway if gridcells in the same row are not supposed to have
>> different row
>> >     > indexes then aria-rowindex doesn't make sense on gridcell. If
>> gridcells in
>> >     > a row won't have holes between each other then aria-colindex can
>> be defined
>> >     > on the row. In that case aria-rowindex and aria-colindex would
>> mean a X-Y
>> >     > shift of the grid.
>> >
>> >     Are these properties going to be limited to just grids? Or will they
>> >     also apply to the proposed new ARIA table roles (for non-interactive
>> >     tables)? If the latter, wouldn't aria-colindex be a property of the
>> cell
>> >     and not the row?
>> >
>> >     --joanie
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>