- From: Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
- Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:39:29 +1000
- To: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>, "James Craig" <jcraig@apple.com>
- Cc: "Michael Cooper" <cooper@w3.org>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <public-pfwg@w3.org>
On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 05:02:38 +1000, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com> wrote: > The entirety of the CSS WG discussions happens on www-style. It’s fully > open with members and non-members. > > We’re trying to be inclusive and lower the barrier to entry, aren’t we? > > Just put the list behavior expectations on the join page, or in the join > auto-response email. +1 Having to moderate before things get through leads to frustration. Telling people off for doing the wrong thing is a rare enough occurrence that it seems to work. It is true that we want people to accept the terms of W3C's policies - which are not RAND but royalty-free patent licensing for recommendations - but that can be done effectively through the challenge/response mechanism for autosubscribe just as well as with a moderator in the middle. cheers >> On Dec 5, 2015, at 4:56 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote: >> >> James Craig writes: >>> You could also make the list fully open to join and post. Lowest >>> overhead. >>> >>> Then then only duty is to remove members that engage in disrespectful >>> or unproductive communication. >> But, then there's no record that they've been advised up front of what's >> expected of them. >> >> And, what about the RAND that all members agree to when joining. Just >> blow it off? Not acceptable. >> >> Janina >> >>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> I would be OK with moderating nonmember posts. >>>> >>>> The problem with moderating, of course, is that someone has to be >>>> tasked >>>> with that chore. And, that someone needs a backup person when they're >>>> on >>>> vacation, or sick, etc. And, we can't expect them to clear (or deny) >>>> posts by the minute --- so how often would we expect such to occur? >>>> Daily? Weekly? >>>> >>>> If you review the minutes from yesterday's ARIA call, you'll find the >>>> discussion was concerned to make it as easy as possible to participate >>>> in ARIA development. However, "easy as possible" needs to meet certain >>>> commitments, and we need those commitments on record. These include >>>> the >>>> good behavior and agreement to W3C RAND. >>>> >>>> PS: The HTML-A11Y Task Force is moderating nonmember posts. It's been >>>> a >>>> low incidence chore, fortunately. >>>> >>>> Janina >>>> >>>> James Craig writes: >>>>> Is there an option to allow public read, but moderated posting? If >>>>> so, I'd prefer that solution. If not, +1 as-is. >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The resolution of the teleconference was to adopt a policy that >>>>>> public >>>>>> subscription to the list will be allowed, but it will be carried >>>>>> out via >>>>>> a manual process, rather than automatic self-subscribe. A request to >>>>>> subscribe would be directed to the staff contact, who would reply >>>>>> with a >>>>>> short set of commitments asked of list subscribers, and upon >>>>>> receiving >>>>>> an affirmative reply, would subscribe the person. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >>>> sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net >>>> Email: janina@rednote.net >>>> >>>> Linux Foundation Fellow >>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >>>> >>>> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative >>>> (WAI) >>>> Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf >> >> -- >> >> Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 >> sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net >> Email: janina@rednote.net >> >> Linux Foundation Fellow >> Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org >> >> The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) >> Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf >> > -- Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex chaals@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com
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