Re: Lists and Headers

Thanks - that's exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Matthew King <mattking@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Shane, I don't think any special markup is required in this case. I
> definitely would not put aria-describedby on every item; that would be
> verbosity night mare.
>
> Typically, a "very long" list is going to be part of adocument that is
> going to have sections. Since the section has a title, that provides
> context. Some screen readers make it easy to know what section of a
> document you are in. For example, when reading the current title on a web
> page with the JAWS command insert+t, JAWS tells you the title of the
> current section in addition to the title of the window.
>
> Alternatively, it is easy to do the sighted equivalent of "looking
> around". Just mark your current reading place, also a function provided by
> many readers, and "look around" by jumping to the beginning of the list,
> the beginning of the section, etc. After taking 2 seconds to look around,
> return to your marked place.
>
> I believe that screen readers should all make it easy for users to
> understand their current context by taking advantage of document structure.
> The author should not have to provide any redundant markup to do the same.
> Headings, landmark regions, etc. are there to help screen readers do this.
> And, their relationship to a list inside a document is manifest to the
> screen reader by the accessibility tree.
>
> Matt King
> IBM Senior Technical Staff Member
> I/T Chief Accessibility Strategist
> IBM BT/CIO - Global Workforce and Web Process Enablement
> Phone: (503) 578-2329, Tie line: 731-7398
> mattking@us.ibm.com
>
>
>
> From:        Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
> To:        "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <public-pfwg@w3.org>,
> Date:        04/02/2015 06:55 AM
> Subject:        Lists and Headers
> Sent by:        ahby@aptest.com
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>
> Question: If you were going to annotate a list (ul, dl, ol) so that it had
> some sort of description, and do it in an A11Y way, how would you do it?  I
> am thinking especially of long lists where a URI might point into the
> middle of it, and it might be challenging for a non-sighted user to quickly
> understand the context.  aria-describedby on each item?  A caption (if
> captions worked for lists)?
>
> --
> Shane McCarron
> Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.
>
>


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Shane McCarron
Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.