- From: Birkir Gunnarsson <birkir.gunnarsson@deque.com>
- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:58:54 -0500
- To: "'Gunderson, Jon R'" <jongund@illinois.edu>, "'Dominic Mazzoni'" <dmazzoni@google.com>, "'Joseph Scheuhammer'" <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Cc: "'Alexander Surkov'" <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>, "'LWatson@PacielloGroup.com'" <LWatson@paciellogroup.com>, "'Matthew King'" <mattking@us.ibm.com>, "'Joanie Diggs'" <diggs@igalia.com>, "'White, Jason J'" <jjwhite@ets.org>, "'Bryan Garaventa'" <bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com>, <public-pfwg@w3.org>
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You could imagine a process, e.g. of applying for a visa. Process involves 3 steps: Personal info Education and professional info Employer info Each step can easily consist of more than one webpages including lists and tabs (for personal info you have family including a page with tabs where you select merital status, and fill in the inforrmation relevant to yours … dependents and so on). Your progress through the application is indicated with a list of links where your current step in the process is indicated. This cannot match the current page title, since each step consists of multiple pages, some including tabs. We could saturate the title element and make it very long to compensate for the complexity, but it is generally not popular with web developers in my experience, plus end users start losing track of page titles that are overly long. I have not seen this precise scenario, but I have seen similar processes and pages that are actually part of two separate processes, where current status of each is indicated using CSS in two separate lists on the same page. There is no aria landmark or labelling that I can currently think of that would conveniently indicate active element in a set of elements. We would not want to create a landmark of a single element (if we were, it would have to be a region, since navigation would be misleading, and region sits in this rather uncomfortable area between a landmark and not a landmark and subsequently assistive technology support is inconsistent). From: Gunderson, Jon R [mailto:jongund@illinois.edu] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:46 PM To: Dominic Mazzoni; Joseph Scheuhammer Cc: Alexander Surkov; LWatson@PacielloGroup.com; Matthew King; Joanie Diggs; White, Jason J; Bryan Garaventa; public-pfwg@w3.org Subject: Re: ACTION-1442: Draft spec text for aria-current and aria-currentfor Dominic, The most compelling use case that I have heard for ARIA-CURRENT is when you have a list of links and one of the links is to the page (or view) you are currently on. ARIA-CURRENT could tell you that this is the link to this page (or view). Another use case for indicating the current step in a list of steps, I am not as convinced about this use case since I think the primary way to indicate the step should be through page titling, landmark labels and/or headings. Jon From: Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@google.com> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 1:00 PM To: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu> Cc: Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>, Léonie Watson <lwatson@paciellogroup.com>, Matthew King <mattking@us.ibm.com>, Joanie Diggs <diggs@igalia.com>, "White, Jason J" <jjwhite@ets.org>, Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com>, Jon Gunderson <jongund@illinois.edu>, "public-pfwg@w3.org" <public-pfwg@w3.org> Subject: Re: ACTION-1442: Draft spec text for aria-current and aria-currentfor On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu> wrote: The example I gave using site navigation applies: http://idrc.ocad.ca/index.php/research-and-development/ongoing-projects. The site index can be navigated using up/down arrow keys, moving focus from link to link, but the "you-are-here" link doesn't change. Thus, "focus" is independent of "current" in the same container. This really feels like "selected" to me. Can you explain why you feel aria-selected would be a poor choice here, or a case where aria-current would be different than aria-selected?
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