- From: Bryan Garaventa <bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com>
- Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:23:44 +0000
- To: "LWatson@PacielloGroup.com" <LWatson@PacielloGroup.com>, 'James Craig' <jcraig@apple.com>, 'Janina Sajka' <janina@rednote.net>
- CC: 'W3C WAI Protocols & Formats' <public-pfwg@w3.org>
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One of the things I've observed is that it is sometimes difficult to determine what is or isn't substantive when issues are introduced on the list, or who if anybody is reading them. E.G Some questions/proposals are posted and are never replied to, making it difficult to tell if they are not deemed substantive by the group or if they have been simply overlooked by those who would have been interested otherwise. In contrast, it is usually easier to gage this during the live discussions. For example, a couple of weeks ago, while talking about something similar but unrelated to role=heading on the UAIG call, I asked about aria-level and what the spec said regarding this as being or not being a required attribute. Joseph looked it up and it got banged around by the group and was resolved in about five minutes. I'm not saying that one way is better than the other, but there is value I think in both for different reasons. From: Léonie Watson [mailto:LWatson@PacielloGroup.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:05 AM To: 'James Craig'; 'Janina Sajka' Cc: 'W3C WAI Protocols & Formats' Subject: RE: Request to move ARIA meeting to either Thursday or Friday (same time) James Craig wrote: "Shortening the time would force the working group to use that meeting time to address the issues that mattered most. This is better for all the attendees, whoever they are." It's also difficult for the average person to maintain focus for 90 minutes [1]. If you're scribing it's even more difficult! "Substantive details should always first be discussed on list, not in the phone meetings. Phone calls should only be for recurring issues that cannot be resolved on the list." We need to balance the two. If we discuss the details on list, then finalise/agree on the call, that strikes me as a reasonable balance - and 60 minutes a reasonable time to accomplish it. It isn't just implementers who find it difficult to set aside 90 minutes. Léonie. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_span -- Senior Accessibility Engineer, TPG @LeonieWatson @PacielloGroup
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