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ARIA Minutes for 17 March

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 13:56:25 -0400
To: W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <public-pfwg@w3.org>
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Minutes from the ARIA Task Force teleconference of 17 March are provided below as text, and are available as hypertext at:

http://www.w3.org/2014/03/17-aria-minutes.html


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                                                                                   - DRAFT -

                                                              Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
                                                                                  17 Mar 2014

   See also: IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          +1.415.624.aaaa, janina, +1.512.659.aabb, Bryan_Garaventa, jcraig, James_Nurthen, Susann_Keohane, +1.603.882.aacc, Rich_Schwerdtfeger

   Regrets
   Chair
          Rich

   Scribe
          Joanie, Rich, janina

Contents

     * Topics
         1. Expanding the role attribute value beyond ARIA
     * Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 17 March 2014

   <richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus

   <richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Rich

   <richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus

   <bgaraventa1979> I'm on, sorry was muted

   <richardschwerdtfeger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Mar/0061.html

   <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/648

   <Zakim> jcraig, you wanted to propose a W3C Note declaring how ARIA 1.0 role attribute can be used validly with epub-namespaced value tokens and to e.g.
   role="epub:chapter region" and to

   <jcraig> e.g. role="epub:chapter region"

   <jcraig> role="chapter region"

   <richardschwerdtfeger> <section role="chapter">

   <jcraig> role="epub-chapter region"

   <jcraig> <section role="epub-chapter">

   <richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: Joanie

   <richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: Rich

Expanding the role attribute value beyond ARIA

   <jcraig> ACTION: jcraig to write a W3C Note explaining how epub-prefixed roles can be used already in ARIA 1.0 [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2014/03/17-aria-minutes.html#action01]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-1401 - Write a w3c note explaining how epub-prefixed roles can be used already in aria 1.0 [on James Craig - due 2014-03-24].

   <richardschwerdtfeger> RESOLUTION: James Craig to write a draft note describing process and methodology for providing new role values not yet in ARIA

   <janina> scribe: janina

   <clown> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Mar/0071.html

   rs: Jon should be here when we discuss his suggestions ...

   Topic Issue-523

   <jcraig> Issue-523?

   <trackbot> Issue-523 -- searchbox/searchfield role which is a subrole of textbox/textfield -- open

   <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/523

   rs: Do we want role for searchbox (or search-field)?

   <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#search

   jd: Yes

   jc: Yes

   rs: A good shortname?

   jc: SearchField ... even if inconsistent with TextBox

   jn: SearchText //

   js: I hear the text of the string being searched for when I hear "Search Text"
   ... Not the container where this is all going on

   <clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#textbox

   <Birkir> Greetings everyone. Unable to join by phone today due to inclement weather in the D.C area (and being at home with a lot of kids). I plan to become active
   and join every meeting starting with the next. Hope to see many of you at CSUN

   jn: Plain text in HTML ...

   jc: HTML has auto completes, so like combo
   ... Want "search field" to be more specific to intended behavior

   jn: Apple and Google are type=text, not type=search

   jc: Wonder if crossbrowser issue?
   ... Does IE render type=search appropriately?

   [crickets]

   cs: Unsure

   clown: Apple has type=text, plus all kinds of ARIA, including role=combobox

   cs: Bing is type=text, probably for legacy support

   rs: Could have a popup of somekind

   jc: developer.apple.com uses type=search, but no autocomplete
   ... Could consider whether combox should be determined on its attribs, not the role

   <jcraig> type="search" exposed on AX API as AXRole = AXTextfield:AXSearchField

   <jcraig> a combobox type="search" could be exposed on AX API as AXRole = AXComboBox:AXSearchField

   rs: We could create a relationship? So to indicate combobox?

   jc: Similar what cyns calls patterns, what IndieUI calls actions, and what we've referred to a behaviors. It's about what the element supports rather than the role.
   ... More tied to what this particular element supports

   rs: Guess not a quickie!
   ... Table this to next week ...

   <jcraig> issue-605?

   <trackbot> issue-605 -- menuitem role does not allow use of aria-selected -- open

   <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/605

   [Clarification that agenda is inaccurate -- we're not proposing removing selectability ]

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: jcraig to write a W3C Note explaining how epub-prefixed roles can be used already in ARIA 1.0 [recorded in
   http://www.w3.org/2014/03/17-aria-minutes.html#action01]

   [End of minutes]
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Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.443.300.2200
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