- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 19:29:10 +0100
- To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Cc: Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <public-pfwg@w3.org>, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>, Michael Smith <mike@w3.org>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
- Message-ID: <CA+ri+V=BMZQCgumzWr0ErSC=Rd7itP6p06Ya85bAtHGvQx9AAQ@mail.gmail.com>
>From the test results http://stevefaulkner.github.io/html-mapping-tests/ 55 passing requirements 6 fail HTML 5 CR Implicit ARIA Semantics at risk: 1. output element = status role 2. link element that creates a hyperlink = link role 3. input element )with a type attribute in the Text, Search, Telephone, URL, or E-mail states with a suggestions source element) = combobox role 4. input element with a type attribute in the Number state = spinbutton role 5. img element whose alt attribute's value is empty = presentation role 6. hr element = separator role -- Regards SteveF HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/> On 16 June 2014 19:19, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote: > Hi Robin, Steve, PLH, All: > > An update on the PF request ... > > The relevant CfC in the PFWG[1] asks EITHER for testing or an RFC2119 > redesignation to "informative." > > As Robin notes, Steve responded to the PF concern by creating and > running tests whose results are clearly impressive. Today's ARIA > telecon discussed these developments with Steve.[2] > > We came to the following conclusions: > > * Marking the entire section "At Risk" would be excessive, as much > * of it is correct. > > * There are a small number of assertions, perhaps a dozen, which > * need to be corrected. Steve will be providing a list of these > * shortly. He is also intending to file bugs on these items during > * LC. Following today's discussion in the ARIA Task Force, > * these are the only items we would consider "At Risk." > > What is unclear to us is whether correcting these items, which would > involve edits to the normative text of the 5.0 specification during Last > Call, is practical. We do not seek to force HTML back to CR--that is not > our intent here. > > I'm looking for suggestions for resolving the failures identified by > Steve's testing while keeping HTML moving toward PR and TR. > > Janina > > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Jun/0067.html > [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/06/16-aria-minutes.html > > Robin Berjon writes: > > Hi Janina, > > > > On 13/06/2014 16:13 , Janina Sajka wrote: > > >However, we do believe there is one section of the candidate LC document > > >whose RFC2119 status may need to be changed. Therefore, we are > > >requesting that the following section be marked "At Risk" for the LC: > > > > > > > http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat/WD-html5-20140617/dom.html#sec-strong-native-semantics > > > > > >PF notes that the normative requirements on user agents in this section > > >are not tested and believes that they cannot be appropriately > > >implemented from the specification alone. > > > > I understand where you are coming from but I feel uncomfortable making > this > > at risk (which does slate for removal) when it is in fact implemented, > and > > implemented relatively well to boot! > > > > Looking at these tests: > > > > http://stevefaulkner.github.io/html-mapping-tests/ > > > > If you forget about elements that are only in 5.1 (details, dialog) it > > actually looks pretty good. Sure enough, there are a few failures, but > they > > don't look like showstoppers to me. The tests leave me rather optimistic > > overall. > > > > Based on this, can you please clarify your concerns regarding > > implementability? > > > > -- > > Robin Berjon - http://berjon.com/ - @robinberjon > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 > sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net > Email: janina@rednote.net > > Linux Foundation Fellow > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Chair, Protocols & Formats http://www.w3.org/wai/pf > Indie UI http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/ > > >
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