- From: Aaron M Leventhal <aleventh@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:26:54 -0400
- To: Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org>
- Cc: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>, public-pfwg-comments@w3.org, wai-xtech@w3.org, wai-xtech-request@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OFEF759A80.A44CA27B-ON8525741E.004EE6C2-8525741E.004F820B@us.ibm.com>
Henri, this is really useful. Everyone should look at your findings. From the doc: > Findings So Far > * To find out how far out these made-up rules are from what people > expect to do with ARIA, I validated the University of Illinois ARIA examples. > * A grid example turns table headers into buttons. This is > problematic, because the aria-sort property does not apply to > buttons. It seems to be it would make more sense not to override the > native semantics of th and indicate that the headers can be clicked > to sort by setting focusability with tabindex. > * The live region states and properties are used without an explicit > role on span. Perhaps it would make sense to move the live region > states and properties to global states and properties. Totally agree. Anything can be live. I believe the current internal draft has that as a feature: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/aria/ (At the last f2f we went over the global states & propreties and fixed a few that should have been global). > * Another case where a validator could help. Is “descendant” too > prone to get misspelt? “labelled” is even noted as problematic in the spec. > * Of the states and properties I opted not to support in this draft, > aria-hidden is actually used by the demos. Is it too late for > irrelevant? On the other hand, the other states and properties that Why not have HTML 5 use hidden? It's more obvious what it ,means. Irrelevant just sounds like the opposite of relevant from XForms, which definitely does not mean hidden -- it just means enabled. > I opted to support are ones that were not used in the demos. > * Leaving group partially unsupported did hit a demo case, though. - Aaron Al Gilman <Alfred.S.Gilman@IEEE.org> Sent by: wai-xtech-request@w3.org 03/31/2008 03:06 PM To Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> cc public-pfwg-comments@w3.org, wai-xtech@w3.org Subject Thanks! Re: Runnable suggestion of ARIA in HTML5 document conformance integration On 31 Mar 2008, at 2:34 PM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > > I've prototyped ARIA-in-HTML5 conformance checking in Validator.nu: > http://html5.validator.nu/ > > This allows people to try what a refinement of my earlier > suggestion feels like when executed with real input. This will be a big help. Al > The features of the prototype are explained in the following document: > http://hsivonen.iki.fi/aria-html5-bis/ > > -- > Henri Sivonen > hsivonen@iki.fi > http://hsivonen.iki.fi/ > > >
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