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Re: TPAC Slides Update

From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 17:35:59 -0400
Message-ID: <CAFmg2sW9-DihM9VHo6fAJSZJiZ+MUL39ayaLWT1nZHu_WEe1zg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com>
Cc: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>, Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>, "public-personalization-tf@w3.org" <public-personalization-tf@w3.org>
> Oh my, it _is_ different on Windows.

heh heh heh...

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(alt: hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil...)

JF

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 5:06 PM Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com> wrote:

> Hi Lionel, JF, Charles, Janina, all,
>
> tl;dr: I've made updates in line with your feedback; thanks! It's still
> too long; will be concentrating on that next.
>
> A quick update to the quick update:
>
> 1. Re-phrased the "call to action"s near the end, as Lionel suggested.
>
> 2. I quite like the yellow highlight, but I understand how it may appear
> to be a warning. The problem is that only changing the font colour could
> make it hard for some people to see that _any_ of the code is highlighted.
> I am also trying to stay within the TPAC styles as best I can. If you or
> anyone could come up with some different colours we could use (with >=3:1
> contrast for the highlight/highlighted code), I can include them. Would've
> liked to've been able to use syntax highlighting like in your slides, but
> the TPAC template doesn't do it. I'll need help with this to get it sorted
> in time.
>
> 3. Tweaked the wording at the start along the lines you suggested JF. I'd
> like to think the changes being made were already moving us in that
> direction, and agree that a bit of specific technical info up-front to set
> expectations is helpful. I was going to reference a famous quote, then
> wondered who said it and found an interesting article [1]. Also: Roxette
> rule!
>
> 4. Oh my, it _is_ different on Windows. Fired up my VM and there we go.
> Thanks for catching this. I will check all the slides after to make sure
> they fit. I wonder if my presentation from last year has the same problem!
>
> 5. Started finalising the speaker info slide. Want to ACK that Lionel and
> Lisa both contributed slide material directly, and that all of us have
> worked on it. Feedback welcome.
>
> A version with these changes has been pushed [2].
>
> Important note: the deck is still too long, so some slides will be
> removed, or moved to being appendix/supporting material. Still need to
> practice on the latest version. Will update you again as soon as I can,
> though I note our first session is very soon (in fact I think it's when our
> call would've been on Monday).
>
> best regards,
>
>
> Matthew
>
> [1] https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/08/15/tell-em/
> [2] https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/pull/199
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> On 13/10/2021, 19:07, "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
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>     I'd be OK with John's proposed reordering. What do others think?
>
>     Listing AAC third doesn't bother me, because it's a technical
> definition
>     most people won't get until they see examples. Bullet one is fairly
>     specific in that way as well, but it's generally comprehendable, then
>     bullet 2 breaks out the curb cut effect here. That engages, imo.
>
>     Janina
>
>     John Foliot writes:
>     > FWIW.... on that particular screen Matthew, I also have a minor
> concern
>     > that the order of the bullets places an undue emphasis on symbols,
> to the
>     > detriment of (what I believe will be the most adopted attributes)
> *action*,
>     > *destination*, and *purpose*. I personally would be much happier if
> those
>     > bullets read like this:
>     >
>     > * People with cognitive and learning disabilities, such as
> dyscalculia,
>     > AD(H)D, short-term memory loss, etc.
>     > * People who are in a time of crisis, or have a migraine, or are busy
>     > * People who use Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC)
> (with
>     > varying vocabulary sizes)
>     > * People who struggle to learn/recognise new icons
>     >
>     > (You may note some additional editorial suggestions)
>     >
>     > My 2 cents.
>     >
>     > JF
>     >
>     > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 12:43 PM John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote:
>     >
>     > > FWIW Matthew, I am seeing the same problem.
>     > >
>     > > [image: image.png]
>     > >
>     > > I'm going to blame it on Mac versus Windows, but that's just me...
>     > >
>     > > JF
>     > >
>     > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 12:34 PM Matthew Atkinson <
> matkinson@tpgi.com>
>     > > wrote:
>     > >
>     > >> Hi Charles, all,
>     > >>
>     > >> Thanks for all the feedback everyone; I am working on it.
>     > >>
>     > >> Charles: I think you may be looking at an older version of the
> slides.
>     > >> The latest version has 28 slides. You may need to force-reload in
> your
>     > >> browser. If you are looking at the latest version, I'm not
> exactly sure
>     > >> what could be happening there; maybe something to do with screen
>     > >> resolution; please ping me off-list if you are still having
> problems;
>     > >> thanks!
>     > >>
>     > >> Best regards,
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >> Matthew
>     > >> --
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>     > >> --
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>     > >> On 13/10/2021, 13:35, "Charles LaPierre" <charlesl@benetech.org>
> wrote:
>     > >>
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>     > >>
>     > >>     Small point.
>     > >>     Slide #4's text  goes off the screen.
>     > >>     Thanks
>     > >>     EOM
>     > >>     Charles LaPierre
>     > >>     Technical Lead, DIAGRAM and Born Accessible
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>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>     On Oct 12, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Matthew Atkinson <
> matkinson@tpgi.com>
>     > >> wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >>     Hello TF,
>     > >>
>     > >>     Lisa and I took a couple of hours this morning to really
> improve the
>     > >> slides, and think they're in much better shape now. I also have
> extensive
>     > >> notes (currently in some of the slides as HTML comments) about
> emphasis I
>     > >> need to put on what COGA will need to know, and what we'll need
> to know
>     > >> from them, so I will be sure to address that as we go through. I
> still may
>     > >> cut out some slides—at the very least some will be moved to
> "appendix"
>     > >> sort-of material—but I don't think any more need to be added.
> (There are
>     > >> some placeholders for code samples I just couldn't get to this
> evening;
>     > >> will add those very soon.)
>     > >>
>     > >>     PR URL:
> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/pull/199
>     > >>     Preview URL:
>     > >>
> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/tpac-2021-talk/talks/2021/tpac/index.html
>     > >>
>     > >>     We've made general changes to keep the focus on our core
> use-cases,
>     > >> pre-empt questions about i18n issues, clarify how we're aiming to
> solve
>     > >> problems and generally ensure that proper terminology is being
> used.
>     > >>
>     > >>     Feedback welcome though hopefully we're pretty close now.
>     > >>
>     > >>     Best regards,
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>     Matthew
>     > >>     --
>     > >>     Matthew Tylee Atkinson
>     > >>     --
>     > >>     Senior Accessibility Engineer
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>     > >
>     > > --
>     > > *John Foliot* |
>     > > Senior Industry Specialist, Digital Accessibility |
>     > > W3C Accessibility Standards Contributor |
>     > >
>     > > "I made this so long because I did not have time to make it
> shorter." -
>     > > Pascal "links go places, buttons do things"
>     > >
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > *John Foliot* |
>     > Senior Industry Specialist, Digital Accessibility |
>     > W3C Accessibility Standards Contributor |
>     >
>     > "I made this so long because I did not have time to make it
> shorter." -
>     > Pascal "links go places, buttons do things"
>
>
>
>     --
>
>     Janina Sajka
>     https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
>
>     Linux Foundation Fellow
>     Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org
>
>     The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>     Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures
> http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
>
>
>

-- 
*John Foliot* |
Senior Industry Specialist, Digital Accessibility |
W3C Accessibility Standards Contributor |

"I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." -
Pascal "links go places, buttons do things"

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