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Re: TPAC Slides Update

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 14:07:17 -0400
To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Cc: Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com>, Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>, "public-personalization-tf@w3.org" <public-personalization-tf@w3.org>
Message-ID: <YWcgVbajbPeDp5n9@rednote.net>
I'd be OK with John's proposed reordering. What do others think?

Listing AAC third doesn't bother me, because it's a technical definition
most people won't get until they see examples. Bullet one is fairly
specific in that way as well, but it's generally comprehendable, then
bullet 2 breaks out the curb cut effect here. That engages, imo.

Janina

John Foliot writes:
> FWIW.... on that particular screen Matthew, I also have a minor concern
> that the order of the bullets places an undue emphasis on symbols, to the
> detriment of (what I believe will be the most adopted attributes) *action*,
> *destination*, and *purpose*. I personally would be much happier if those
> bullets read like this:
> 
> * People with cognitive and learning disabilities, such as dyscalculia,
> AD(H)D, short-term memory loss, etc.
> * People who are in a time of crisis, or have a migraine, or are busy
> * People who use Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC) (with
> varying vocabulary sizes)
> * People who struggle to learn/recognise new icons
> 
> (You may note some additional editorial suggestions)
> 
> My 2 cents.
> 
> JF
> 
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 12:43 PM John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote:
> 
> > FWIW Matthew, I am seeing the same problem.
> >
> > [image: image.png]
> >
> > I'm going to blame it on Mac versus Windows, but that's just me...
> >
> > JF
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 12:34 PM Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Charles, all,
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the feedback everyone; I am working on it.
> >>
> >> Charles: I think you may be looking at an older version of the slides.
> >> The latest version has 28 slides. You may need to force-reload in your
> >> browser. If you are looking at the latest version, I'm not exactly sure
> >> what could be happening there; maybe something to do with screen
> >> resolution; please ping me off-list if you are still having problems;
> >> thanks!
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >>
> >> Matthew
> >> --
> >> Matthew Tylee Atkinson
> >> --
> >> Senior Accessibility Engineer
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> >> On 13/10/2021, 13:35, "Charles LaPierre" <charlesl@benetech.org> wrote:
> >>
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> >>
> >>     Small point.
> >>     Slide #4's text  goes off the screen.
> >>     Thanks
> >>     EOM
> >>     Charles LaPierre
> >>     Technical Lead, DIAGRAM and Born Accessible
> >>     Imageshare Product Manager
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     On Oct 12, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Matthew Atkinson <matkinson@tpgi.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Hello TF,
> >>
> >>     Lisa and I took a couple of hours this morning to really improve the
> >> slides, and think they're in much better shape now. I also have extensive
> >> notes (currently in some of the slides as HTML comments) about emphasis I
> >> need to put on what COGA will need to know, and what we'll need to know
> >> from them, so I will be sure to address that as we go through. I still may
> >> cut out some slides—at the very least some will be moved to "appendix"
> >> sort-of material—but I don't think any more need to be added. (There are
> >> some placeholders for code samples I just couldn't get to this evening;
> >> will add those very soon.)
> >>
> >>     PR URL: https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/pull/199
> >>     Preview URL:
> >> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/tpac-2021-talk/talks/2021/tpac/index.html
> >>
> >>     We've made general changes to keep the focus on our core use-cases,
> >> pre-empt questions about i18n issues, clarify how we're aiming to solve
> >> problems and generally ensure that proper terminology is being used.
> >>
> >>     Feedback welcome though hopefully we're pretty close now.
> >>
> >>     Best regards,
> >>
> >>
> >>     Matthew
> >>     --
> >>     Matthew Tylee Atkinson
> >>     --
> >>     Senior Accessibility Engineer
> >>     TPG Interactive
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> >>
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> >
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> > *John Foliot* |
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> > W3C Accessibility Standards Contributor |
> >
> > "I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." -
> > Pascal "links go places, buttons do things"
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> *John Foliot* |
> Senior Industry Specialist, Digital Accessibility |
> W3C Accessibility Standards Contributor |
> 
> "I made this so long because I did not have time to make it shorter." -
> Pascal "links go places, buttons do things"



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Janina Sajka
https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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