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Re: Helping Personalization with AAC Markup--Can you join Monday call?

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 07:34:26 -0500
To: Lionel Wolberger <lionel@userway.org>
Cc: Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>, Lisa Seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>, Personalization tf <public-personalization-tf@w3.org>
Message-ID: <YaYaUiOe+LgKiVOX@rednote.net>
Just to confirm -- Are none of our user agents rendering symbols? Not
the Chrome extension? not Firefox?  Nothing else?

Can we please confirm on list?

That would indeed pose  a conundrum for our I18N issue. Rendering/implementation is a CR
task, yet we need to show functioning markup to clear the I18N issue in
order to get to CR.

Best,

Janina

Lionel Wolberger writes:
> Dear all,
> 
> I marked up the Hebrew, and combined the Hebrew and English into a "both"
> page.
> To keep the set complete I re-attach the original English with symbols.
> Now we need a rendering.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Lionel Wolberger
> COO, UserWay Inc.
> lionel@userway.org
> UserWay.org <http://userway.org/>
> <https://t.sidekickopen90.com/s3t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7kF8cFFTBW4T_qld2zGCwVN8Jbw_8QsRtKVn1vXj1p1kknW16gGBN41Jd6G101?te=W3R5hFj4cm2zwW4hLZp04myBBCf43Wg2w04&si=8000000004174048&pi=3829d749-0052-4147-fd36-30e6a8e0c0ec>[image:
> text]
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 9:22 PM Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Attached is the English version of the xhtml page with symbols added.
> > However I couldn't test this because the Chrome Personalization Test Page
> > <https://personalization-f08cf.firebaseapp.com/SiteDescription> with the
> > Athena Chrome Personalization Plugin doesn't seem to work anymore at least
> > when I tried I couldn't get symbols or any other customization other than
> > "Change Tooltip" as an option.
> > Does anyone have this working?  Here is the page to the Plugin setup
> > <https://personalization-f08cf.firebaseapp.com/SiteDescription> etc.
> >
> >
> > Here is what I got done based on the symbol #'s provided by Lionel.
> >
> > Although I am worried that since all words in even a section of the recipe
> > have symbols this might not be the best example as folks will say well why
> > will this be beneficial if only some of the words have symbols and other
> > key words are missing it won't make sense to a person relying on symbols to
> > understand what is going on.
> >
> > In any event here is what I was able to construct given the symbols
> > provided.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > EOM
> > Charles LaPierre
> > Technical Lead, DIAGRAM and Born Accessible
> > Imageshare Product Manager
> > Twitter: @CLaPierreA11Y
> > Skype: charles_lapierre
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29, 2021, at 7:18 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
> >
> > Steve Lee writes:
> >
> > He you go
> >
> > It was more time consuming than I expected but the results are pretty good.
> >
> > The hummus.txt file contains the [partial] recipe with Bliss code and name
> > in {{ }} before the word they apply to.
> >
> > The hummus.csv provides the word plus closest bliss and mulberry symbols
> >
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On 15/11/2021 15:20, Lionel Wolberger wrote:
> >
> > Dear Steve,
> >
> > It was great meeting you and discussing Personalization. Thanks again
> > for volunteering to implement symbols on this text.
> >
> > Just checking in: let us know about your progress.
> >
> > Looking forward,
> >
> > - Lionel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lionel Wolberger
> > COO, UserWay Inc.
> > lionel@userway.org <mailto:lionel@userway.org <lionel@userway.org>>
> >
> >
> > UserWay.org <http://userway.org/>
> >
> > <https://userway.org>text
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 2:34 PM Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net
> > <mailto:janina@rednote.net <janina@rednote.net>>> wrote:
> >
> >    Suggesting we use irc.w3.org <http://irc.w3.org> with channel
> >    #personalization for our call
> >    ...
> >
> >    Thanks for confirming, Steve. See you on Zoom in about 90 minutes!
> >
> >    Janina
> >
> >    Lionel Wolberger writes:
> >
> > Lionel Wolberger
> > COO, UserWay Inc.
> > lionel@userway.org <mailto:lionel@userway.org <lionel@userway.org>>
> > UserWay.org <http://userway.org/ <http://userway.org/>>
> > <https://userway.org <https://userway.org>>[image: text]
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We set a meeting for 9AM NYC time, tomorrow 9th November.
> >
> > Sorry for the short notice: if the time's not good let us know.
> >
> > It will be on zoom, for convenience here is the link,
> >
> >
> > https://userway.zoom.us/j/7758580217?pwd=UHg4SmNtRHlIZURNVjRRdzR3dzMrdz09
> >    <
> > https://userway.zoom.us/j/7758580217?pwd=UHg4SmNtRHlIZURNVjRRdzR3dzMrdz09>
> >
> >
> > Meeting ID: 775 858 0217
> > Passcode: 339288
> > One tap mobile
> > +13017158592,,7758580217#,,,,*339288# US (Washington DC)
> > +13126266799,,7758580217#,,,,*339288# US (Chicago)
> >
> > Dial by your location
> >          +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC)
> >          +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago)
> >          +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston)
> >          +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
> >          +1 669 900 9128 US (San Jose)
> >          +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma)
> > Meeting ID: 775 858 0217
> > Passcode: 339288
> > Find your local number: https://userway.zoom.us/u/aKxUxT8fX
> >
> >    <https://userway.zoom.us/u/aKxUxT8fX>
> >
> >
> > Looking forward,
> >
> > - Lionel
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 5:27 PM Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net
> >
> >    <mailto:janina@rednote.net <janina@rednote.net>>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, Steve:
> >
> > I believe you'll recall my brief conversation with you some weeks
> > ago--pre TPAC--about helping Personalization markup a few lines of
> > content with appropriate AAC. This is an update and a next steps
> > suggestion from me on that.
> >
> > I believe we have the content, only part of which actually
> >
> >    needs markup
> >
> > to make the point sufficiently to satisfy I18N's horizontal review
> > concern. But what we need your help with may nevertheless remain
> > unclear. I'd like to make this as easy as possible, especially
> >
> >    as I have
> >
> > a second, similar request that relates to our satisfying
> >
> >    requirements
> >
> > during CR.
> >
> > So, let me simply ask whether it would be possible for you to
> >
> >    join the
> >
> > Personalization teleconference this coming Monday 8 November?
> >
> >    We meet at
> >
> > 3:00 PM London Time. If yes, I can provide Zoom coordinates. If
> >
> >    not, we
> >
> > should probably arrange a brief call at a workable date and hour.
> >
> > Looking forward to speaking with you soon,
> >
> > Janina
> >
> > PS: Last meeting of Personalization, which may be helpful to
> >
> >    read, is
> >
> > here:
> >
> > https://www.w3.org/2021/11/01-personalization-minutes.html
> >
> >    <https://www.w3.org/2021/11/01-personalization-minutes.html>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka
> > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka <https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka>
> >
> > Linux Foundation Fellow
> > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
> >
> >    <http://a11y.org>
> >
> >
> > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility
> >
> >    Initiative (WAI)
> >
> > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures
> >
> >    http://www.w3.org/wai/apa <http://www.w3.org/wai/apa>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >    --
> >
> >    Janina Sajka
> >    https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka <https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka>
> >
> >    Linux Foundation Fellow
> >    Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
> >    <http://a11y.org>
> >
> >    The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> >    Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures
> >    http://www.w3.org/wai/apa <http://www.w3.org/wai/apa>
> >
> >
> > {{22909:cooking,cookery,preparation_(general)}}Ingredients
> >       2 {{22590:tin,can}}cans of garbanzo
> > {{24021:bean_(dried),chick-pea,kidney_bean,pinto_bean}}beans
> >       2 cloves {{14423:garlic}}garlic, {{15989:peel-(to)}}peeled
> >       {{14406:fruit_juice,juice}}Juice of 1 {{15221:little,small}}small
> > {{15190:lemon}}lemon
> > ...
> >
> > {{13408:cook-(to)}}Method
> > 1.    {{13872:drain,sift,strain-(to)}}Drain the
> > {{24021:bean_(dried),chick-pea,kidney_bean,pinto_bean}}beans, but
> > {{15143:keep,preserve,save-(to)}}reserve the
> > {{18209:water,fluid,liquid}}liquid for use {{14417:future}}later
> > 2.    {{15143:keep,preserve,save-(to)}}Reserve a {{24111:few,little}}few
> > {{24021:bean_(dried),chick-pea,kidney_bean,pinto_bean}}beans for decoration
> > {{14417:future}}later
> > 3.    {{16440:put,locate,place-(to)}}Place the
> > {{24021:bean_(dried),chick-pea,kidney_bean,pinto_bean}}beans in a
> > {{22393:food_processor,kitchen_machine}}food processor (or
> > {{22392:mixer,blender}}blender, but processor is easier),
> > {{15481:mix,blend-(to)}}pulse the
> > {{24021:bean_(dried),chick-pea,kidney_bean,pinto_bean}} cooked chickpeas to
> > {{25581:mash,mush,pulp_(food)}}mash them.
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka
> > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
> >
> > Linux Foundation Fellow
> > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
> >
> > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
> >
> >
> >
> >





-- 

Janina Sajka
https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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