Re: alarm bells - was Special meeting this Thursday regarding Personalization Semantics

Lisa,

I wasn't on the call, so I'm sorry if this question was already 
answered. If we use ARIA as the basis for the personalisation semantics, 
how will it map to the accessibility APIs?

Thanks
Léonie.


On 12/04/2018 19:21, lisa.seeman wrote:
> Hi folks
> 
> I found the last few minuets of the call alarming. Is the implication of 
> moving that all the aria examples given in the specification become 
> invalid? These are all the inline examples!  If we leave ARIA is the 
> only way to implement it via microdata and RDFA?
> 
> Note only is it harder to do in these technologies we have NO 
> implementations, were as we have 6 implementations working on the aria 
> approach  - two of which are full consortiums with many members. None of 
> these implementations work with enough context and scoping capabilities 
> (that I know of) to support correct implementation using microdata or rDFA
> 
> I would guess that this will kill the whole effort and all the work in 
> getting implementation and excitement over what we are doing.
> 
> 
> All the best
> 
> Lisa Seeman
> 
> LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter 
> <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---- On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:55:13 +0300 
> *lisa.seeman<lisa.seeman@zoho.com>* wrote ----
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>     I should be able to make it
>     All the best
> 
>     Lisa Seeman
> 
>     LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter
>     <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
> 
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>     ---- On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:41:00 +0300 *Charles
>     LaPierre<charlesl@benetech.org <mailto:charlesl@benetech.org>>*
>     wrote ----
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>         Here are the specifics on the ARIA WG Special Meeting
>         WAI-ARIA Working Group - 12 April 2018
>         Time: 10:00 AM US Pacific, 1:00 PM US Eastern, 17:00 UTC
> 
>         Webex:
>         https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=md27b4a8f598994e81577a285c4ea80c6
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>         IRC: irc.w3.org <http://irc.w3.org>, port: 6665, channel: #aria
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>         Thanks
>         EOM
> 
>         Charles LaPierre
>         Technical Lead, DIAGRAM and Born Accessible
>         E-mail: charlesl@benetech.org <mailto:charlesl@benetech.org>
>         Twitter: @CLaPierreA11Y
>         Skype: charles_lapierre
>         Phone: 650-600-3301
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>             On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:14 AM, lisa.seeman
>             <lisa.seeman@zoho.com <mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>> wrote:
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>             Can you clarify the time and call in details ?
> 
>             All the best
> 
>             Lisa Seeman
> 
>             LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter
>             <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
> 
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>             ---- On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:34:51 +0300 *Ku<jku@illinois.edu
>             <mailto:jku@illinois.edu>>* wrote ----
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>                 +1  I will attend. – JaEun Jemma Ku
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>                 *From:*Thaddeus Cambron <inclusivethinking@gmail.com
>                 <mailto:inclusivethinking@gmail.com>>
>                 *Sent:* Monday, April 9, 2018 4:57 PM
>                 *To:* Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com
>                 <mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>>
>                 *Cc:* ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org
>                 <mailto:public-aria@w3.org>>; lisa.seeman
>                 <lisa.seeman@zoho.com <mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>>;
>                 Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org
>                 <mailto:charlesl@benetech.org>>
>                 *Subject:* Re: [RSVP] Special meeting this Thursday
>                 regarding Personalization Semantics
> 
> 
>                 +1 - Will attend - Thaddeus Cambron
> 
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>                 On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Joanmarie Diggs
>                 <jdiggs@igalia.com <mailto:jdiggs@igalia.com>> wrote:
> 
>                     Hey all.
> 
>                     As those of you who attended last week's meeting are
>                     aware, we are
>                     considering moving the Personalization Task Force
>                     and its deliverables
>                     out of ARIA and into APA. This is still being
>                     discussed by the
>                     Personalization Task Force. See the mailing list
>                     thread opened with this
>                     message [1], along with the minutes from today's
>                     Personalization
>                     Semantics Task Force meeting [2].
> 
>                     Towards the end of today's meeting, in which some
>                     task force members
>                     were absent and during which no consensus was
>                     reached, I proposed the
>                     possibility of doing a WBS Survey to determine
>                     people's positions and
>                     hopefully get closer to identifying a way forward
>                     that we all can live
>                     with. Lisa pointed out that people shouldn't vote
>                     that have not heard
>                     both sides. I think her observation is quite
>                     reasonable and that before
>                     the ARIA Working Group vote in such a survey, we owe
>                     it to Lisa to give
>                     her sufficient time to present her case directly to
>                     the Working Group.
>                     For this reason, we are proposing to make this
>                     week's ARIA concall a
>                     one-topic meeting, namely Personalization Semantics.
> 
>                     The reason for the "[RSVP]" tag is that we want to
>                     ensure that all of
>                     the regular attendees, along with anyone else with
>                     an interest in this
>                     matter, will be at the meeting to hear Lisa's
>                     presentation.
> 
>                     Thank you in advance for your response!
>                     --joanie
> 
>                     [1]
>                     https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2018Apr/0001.html
>                     [2]
>                     https://www.w3.org/2018/04/09-personalization-minutes.html
>                     <https://www.w3.org/2018/04/09-personalization-minutes.html>
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