alarm bells - was Special meeting this Thursday regarding Personalization Semantics

Hi folks

I found the last few minuets of the call alarming. Is the implication of moving that all the aria examples given in the specification become invalid? These are all the inline examples!  If we leave ARIA is the only way to implement it via microdata and RDFA?


Note only is it harder to do in these technologies we have NO implementations, were as we have 6 implementations working on the aria approach  - two of which are full consortiums with many members. None of these implementations work with enough context and scoping capabilities (that I know of) to support correct implementation using microdata or rDFA


I would guess that this will kill the whole effort and all the work in getting implementation and excitement over what we are doing. 


All the best

Lisa Seeman

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---- On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:55:13 +0300 lisa.seeman<lisa.seeman@zoho.com> wrote ---- 

I should be able to make it
All the best

Lisa Seeman

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---- On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 19:41:00 +0300 Charles LaPierre<charlesl@benetech.org> wrote ---- 

  Here are the specifics on the ARIA WG Special Meeting 
 WAI-ARIA Working Group - 12 April 2018
  Time: 10:00 AM US Pacific, 1:00 PM US Eastern, 17:00 UTC
 
 
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  On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:14 AM, lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com> wrote:
 
    Can you clarify the time and call in details ?
 
 All the best
 
 Lisa Seeman
 
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 ---- On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:34:51 +0300 Ku<jku@illinois.edu> wrote ---- 
 
      +1  I will attend. – JaEun Jemma Ku
  
 
 From: Thaddeus Cambron <inclusivethinking@gmail.com> 
 Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:57 PM
 To: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com>
 Cc: ARIA Working Group <public-aria@w3.org>; lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com>; Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>
 Subject: Re: [RSVP] Special meeting this Thursday regarding Personalization Semantics
  
 
  +1 - Will attend - Thaddeus Cambron
 
   
 
  On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com> wrote:
  Hey all.
 
 As those of you who attended last week's meeting are aware, we are
 considering moving the Personalization Task Force and its deliverables
 out of ARIA and into APA. This is still being discussed by the
 Personalization Task Force. See the mailing list thread opened with this
 message [1], along with the minutes from today's Personalization
 Semantics Task Force meeting [2].
 
 Towards the end of today's meeting, in which some task force members
 were absent and during which no consensus was reached, I proposed the
 possibility of doing a WBS Survey to determine people's positions and
 hopefully get closer to identifying a way forward that we all can live
 with. Lisa pointed out that people shouldn't vote that have not heard
 both sides. I think her observation is quite reasonable and that before
 the ARIA Working Group vote in such a survey, we owe it to Lisa to give
 her sufficient time to present her case directly to the Working Group.
 For this reason, we are proposing to make this week's ARIA concall a
 one-topic meeting, namely Personalization Semantics.
 
 The reason for the "[RSVP]" tag is that we want to ensure that all of
 the regular attendees, along with anyone else with an interest in this
 matter, will be at the meeting to hear Lisa's presentation.
 
 Thank you in advance for your response!
 --joanie
 
 [1]
 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-personalization-tf/2018Apr/0001.html
 [2]  https://www.w3.org/2018/04/09-personalization-minutes.html