Re: Publishing new vocabularies - which resolver service

Thanks for that input Phil which reinforced our own thinking. The whole
research infrastructure environment is under review and we are in a holding
pattern organisationally for another 12 months. We are confident the
outcome will be more sustained support into the future but it may look
funny if we set up a new persistence service at this point in time no
matter what neutral domain name we use. We do have many services which we
know will continue though no matter under what organisational structure -
eg Research Data Australia, Research Vocabularies Australia, our Research
Grants and Projects portal, our DataCite DOI minting service .....

One option I didn't add was minting DOIs for vocab terms. Not an option I
would have considered before but I note that Content negotiation is being
implemented by DOI Registration Agencies for their DOI names as I read here

https://www.doi.org/doi_handbook/5_Applications.html#5.4.1

What do you think ?

Monica



The broken link on our persistence awareness guide is embarrassing -
apparently all the necessary redirects were requested and ostensibly
implemented by the company who did our new web site but there was a problem
with url file type extensions (don't ask me why that would be a problem).
Still waiting the full solution but meanwhile our content person has done
some manual fixes have been done.



On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:

> In my view, running your own domain name is the best option. ANDS already
> has persistence as a core idea although, irony of ironies, I notice that
> links I have in some of my work to your guidance on persistent identifiers
> leads to, yes, 404s :-( (see
> http://philarcher.org/diary/2013/uripersistence/#ands and the links to
> things like
> http://ands.org.au/guides/persistent-identifiers-awareness.html)
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> Set up a domain that doesn't mention any organisational name, set it up
> for one job only - to provide permanent URIs - and make it transferable.
> id.org.au seems to be available at the moment, for example.
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> purl.org was set up as *the* solution, thus creating a single point of
> failure - which is now close to failure. Relying on someone else's
> centralised system, be it purl or DOI, leaves you susceptible to their
> future failures. Stepping in would mean taking on responsibility for other
> people's redirections as well are your own. So be decentralised, use the
> Web, look after your own needs.
>
> My 2 cents.
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> Phil.
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> On 19/04/2016 05:42, Monica Omodei wrote:
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>> I hope this is an appropriate forum to ask advice.
>>
>> We have been using the purl.org resolver service for some years to
>> provide
>> a globally unique, persistent, resolvable identifier for Australian
>> research grants so they can be used in metadata describing research
>> outputs
>> like publications, data, software etc. They resolve currently to a view
>> page in Research Data Australia - researchdata.ands.org.au. There is an
>> API
>> but it returns only JSON currently, not XML or RDF
>>
>> We decided not to run our own resolver service because we are not an
>> ongoing organisation with a guaranteed persistent domain and felt that a
>> public resolver service was more suitable. At the time purl.org seemed
>> the
>> right choice. We are now struggling because we cannot make any changes. As
>> has been noted in this forum the admin UI is not available at the
>> moment. We also were concerned when the ability to create our own
>> sub-domain was removed as we envisage want to hand over some sub-domains
>> from our root, *au-research, *to different parties for maintenance.
>>
>> We now also support the Vocabularies Australia Service
>> http://ands.org.au/online-services/research-vocabularies-australia using
>> the SISSVoc software which was established to assist with the publication
>> and widespread use of scientific vocabularies.
>>
>> The ANZSRC Field of Research Vocabulary (ABS 1297.0) which is used to
>> classify research and its outputs in Australian and New Zealand is also
>> published through this service and we maintain purls for these vocabulary
>> terms eg
>>
>> http://purl.org/au-research/vocabulary/anzsrc-for/2008/
>>
>> We want to extend this provision of PURLs to other vocabularies but we
>> cannot use the sane purl domain because of the current problems with OCLC
>> supported purl.org service
>>
>> We need to decide whether to -
>>
>>     - switch to w3id.org as the domain for the other vocabulary purls
>>     - run our own resolver service under a domain name we think can be
>>     transferred to another organisation if/when necessary
>>     - look for another public resolver service
>>     - be patient and wait for the situation with purl.org to resolve
>> itself
>>     (no pun intended)
>>
>> Comments welcome,
>>
>> Monica Omodei
>> Project Manager
>> Australian National Data Service
>>
>>
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