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Re: Publishing new vocabularies - which resolver service

From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 11:43:37 +0100
To: Monica Omodei <monica.omodei@gmail.com>, "public-perma-id@w3.org" <public-perma-id@w3.org>
Message-ID: <57160BD9.1030401@w3.org>
In my view, running your own domain name is the best option. ANDS 
already has persistence as a core idea although, irony of ironies, I 
notice that links I have in some of my work to your guidance on 
persistent identifiers leads to, yes, 404s :-( (see 
http://philarcher.org/diary/2013/uripersistence/#ands and the links to 
things like http://ands.org.au/guides/persistent-identifiers-awareness.html)

Set up a domain that doesn't mention any organisational name, set it up 
for one job only - to provide permanent URIs - and make it transferable. 
id.org.au seems to be available at the moment, for example.

purl.org was set up as *the* solution, thus creating a single point of 
failure - which is now close to failure. Relying on someone else's 
centralised system, be it purl or DOI, leaves you susceptible to their 
future failures. Stepping in would mean taking on responsibility for 
other people's redirections as well are your own. So be decentralised, 
use the Web, look after your own needs.

My 2 cents.

Phil.







On 19/04/2016 05:42, Monica Omodei wrote:
> I hope this is an appropriate forum to ask advice.
>
> We have been using the purl.org resolver service for some years to provide
> a globally unique, persistent, resolvable identifier for Australian
> research grants so they can be used in metadata describing research outputs
> like publications, data, software etc. They resolve currently to a view
> page in Research Data Australia - researchdata.ands.org.au. There is an API
> but it returns only JSON currently, not XML or RDF
>
> We decided not to run our own resolver service because we are not an
> ongoing organisation with a guaranteed persistent domain and felt that a
> public resolver service was more suitable. At the time purl.org seemed the
> right choice. We are now struggling because we cannot make any changes. As
> has been noted in this forum the admin UI is not available at the
> moment. We also were concerned when the ability to create our own
> sub-domain was removed as we envisage want to hand over some sub-domains
> from our root, *au-research, *to different parties for maintenance.
>
> We now also support the Vocabularies Australia Service
> http://ands.org.au/online-services/research-vocabularies-australia using
> the SISSVoc software which was established to assist with the publication
> and widespread use of scientific vocabularies.
>
> The ANZSRC Field of Research Vocabulary (ABS 1297.0) which is used to
> classify research and its outputs in Australian and New Zealand is also
> published through this service and we maintain purls for these vocabulary
> terms eg
>
> http://purl.org/au-research/vocabulary/anzsrc-for/2008/
>
> We want to extend this provision of PURLs to other vocabularies but we
> cannot use the sane purl domain because of the current problems with OCLC
> supported purl.org service
>
> We need to decide whether to -
>
>     - switch to w3id.org as the domain for the other vocabulary purls
>     - run our own resolver service under a domain name we think can be
>     transferred to another organisation if/when necessary
>     - look for another public resolver service
>     - be patient and wait for the situation with purl.org to resolve itself
>     (no pun intended)
>
> Comments welcome,
>
> Monica Omodei
> Project Manager
> Australian National Data Service
>

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Phil Archer
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