- From: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.rpi.edu>
- Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:23:40 -0400
- To: "Peter F.Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
- Cc: <baojie@gmail.com>, <public-owl-wg@w3.org>
I won't argue full vs otherwise here since Peter agrees we could fix section 4.2 - I do think we need section 4, because many people using this won't be starting from scratch, and the primary thing they will want to see if what is new in OWL 2 - so I suspect section 4.1 of the QRG is going to be very popular. -JH On May 20, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Peter F.Patel-Schneider wrote: > I fail to see the rationale for including these things in a *Quick* > Reference Guide, particularly as the document was supposed to be a > "cheat sheet" to assist in the writing of OWL 2 ontologies. In > particular, I would think that a "Quick" Reference Guide should be > about > best current practices, which would strongly argue against including > this vocabulary. > > That said, I would not strongly oppose upgrading and renaming Section > 4.2 to include the three extra vocabulary members, although my > preference is, as before, to not have any part of Section 4 in the > document. > > I do not see that there is any information that you have provided that > would overturn a specific decision of the working group. > > peter > > > > From: Jie Bao <baojie@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: OWL Full Features in QRG (was Re: Issue-104) > Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:54:30 -0500 > >> WG >> >> I have met with RPI AC today and was instructed that RPI would like >> to >> see the additional OWL vocabulary that is only used in OWL 2 Full in >> QRG. The leading rationale is that the QRG should also serve users >> who >> use those terms, especially from the RDF world, and those who have >> used them in OWL 1 so that they will not be misled to think those >> features are deprecated in OWL 2. >> >> The Additional Vocabulary in OWL 2 Full (as far as I know) is: >> >> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Talk:Quick_Reference_Guide#Additional_Vocabulary_in_OWL_2_Full >> >> Jie >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Michael Schneider <schneid@fzi.de> >> wrote: >>> Hi Jie! >>> >>> To repeat what I said in the telco concerning ontology properties: >>> I would >>> not mention the term "owl:OntologyProperty" at all in the QRG. I >>> would >>> further treat the "ontology properties" (as they are only called >>> in the >>> RDF-Based Semantics) as "annotation properties", because they are >>> called so >>> in the Structural Spec. (I can see that you have already put them >>> in their >>> own table "Annotation Properties for Ontologies", which looks >>> reasonable to >>> me, but other people may have other opinions.) >>> >>> I'm a bit unsure about the other terms. What's the arguments >>> against having >>> them just in the normal tables (not in a separate table), and >>> perhaps have >>> some small marker tagging them as "for compatibility reasons"? >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> Jie Bao wrote: >>> >>>> OK. Since all the response so far are against including RDF >>>> vocabulary, I'm happy to remove them. >>>> >>>> How about just list the 5 OWL terms: >>>> >>>> owl:DataRange, owl:distinctMembers, owl:OntologyProperty, >>>> owl:DeprecatedClass, owl:DeprecatedProperty >>>> >>>> And indicate that owl:DataRange is deprecated in OWL 2, but >>>> others are >>>> not. >>>> >>>> As to the name of the section, I still prefer "Additional >>>> Vocabulary >>>> in OWL 2 Full" than the alternative proposal of "Compatibility >>>> Vocabulary", because the later may lead some people to think that >>>> those terms are not encouraged to use. >>>> >>>> Jie > "Con un poco de semántica ya se consigue ir muy lejos" Prof James Hendler http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~hendler, @jahendler, twitter Tetherless World Constellation Chair Computer Science Dept Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY 12180
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