- From: Michael Schneider <schneid@fzi.de>
- Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:34:45 +0200
- To: "Bijan Parsia" <bparsia@cs.manchester.ac.uk>, "Sebastian Rudolph" <rudolph@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de>
- Cc: "W3C OWL Working Group" <public-owl-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <0EF30CAA69519C4CB91D01481AEA06A0013939B1@judith.fzi.de>
And then, there is still also the RDF-Based Semantics, which interprets classes as /individuals/ that have a set of individuals /assigned/ to them as their class /extension/. Michael >-----Original Message----- >From: public-owl-wg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-owl-wg-request@w3.org] >On Behalf Of Bijan Parsia >Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:54 PM >To: Sebastian Rudolph; W3C OWL Working Group >Subject: Re: LC reply drafted > >On 12 May 2009, at 20:41, Sebastian Rudolph wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> if I interpreted the intention of the below LC comment correctly, >> Richard would like to see an explicit statement that classes just >> represent sets of individuals > >But that would be to say something false. OWL Classes most obviously >do not "just" represent sets of individuals (as they can be mapped to >distinct sets in different interpretations). If anything, OWL Classes >are first order logic formulae with one free variable (and thus, when >atomic, correspond to monadic predicates). > >> and that the notion of a "concept" is something related but different. >> I tried to address this by adding two sentences to the Primer >> document, see the diff at >> >> >http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/index.php?title=Primer&diff=23464&oldid= >23440 > >""In modeling, classes are often used to denote the extension sets of >concepts of human thinking, like ''person'' or ''woman''.""" > >But this is precisely wrong: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition#Intension_and_extension > >(reductio ad wikipedia :)). So please don't use the word "extension". > >The commentator has a strange idea of what a concept is (and of class, >and of set). I don't really want to import them into an already >tangled terminological situation. > >> Find the proposed draft response at: >> >> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/LC2_Responses/RHM1 > > >In general, readers of the primer aren't going to know what "extension >set" (er... generally known as the *extension*) is, so this wouldn't >be clarificatory even if it were right. > >Cheers, >Bijan.
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