- From: Ian Horrocks <ian.horrocks@comlab.ox.ac.uk>
- Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:24:50 +0100
- To: W3C OWL Working Group <public-owl-wg@w3.org>
Begin forwarded message: > From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org> > Date: 3 August 2009 21:00:37 BDT > To: Birte Glimm <birte.glimm@comlab.ox.ac.uk> > Cc: Ian Horrocks <ian.horrocks@comlab.ox.ac.uk>, "OWL1.1 Chairs" > <team-owl-chairs@w3.org> > Subject: Re: Problems with OWL 1 tests > >> <snip> >> >>>> 1. WebOnt-miscellaneous-010 >>>> is a negative and NOT positive entailment test >>> >>> Just picking on the first one, the current version of Pellet says >>> the >>> entailment does hold: >>> >>> $ pellet entail -e http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/miscellaneous/ >>> conclusion= >> s010 http://www.w3.org/2002/03owlt/miscellaneous/premises010 >>> All axioms are entailed >>> >>> It's possible Pellet is wrong -- maybe it was intentionally >>> broken so as >>> to pass the test case? -- but much more of a case needs to be >>> made here, >>> I think. >> >> Pellet is wrong because it does not yet handle blank nodes/anonymous >> individuals correctly. I submitted a very detailed explanation to >> Mike&Markus who maintain the test suit. If you want, I can send that >> explanation to you or to the list. > > Ah... Yes, in general it's best to keep these things on the public > mailing list, even if it does increase the traffic. You never really > know what someone else in the WG is going to need/want to pay > attention > to. > >>> Digging a little deeper, it's not a trivial failure on Pellet's >>> part. =C2= >> =A0I >>> added another triple to the conclussion (in a local copy): >>> >>> =C2=A0<rdf:Description rdf:about=3D"http://www.w3.org/People/ >>> Sandro/data#= >> Sandro"> >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0<rdf:type rdf:resource=3D"&food;Pie"/> >>> =C2=A0</rdf:Description> >>> >>> and Pellet rightly complained: >>> >>> =C2=A0 Non-entailments: >>> =C2=A0 ClassAssertion(Pie Sandro) >> >> It really is due anonymous individuals. Pellet works very well for >> most entailments, but for anonymous individuals you have to implement >> some kind of rolling-up procedure that eliminates the blank nodes. In >> order to do that, you have to look at all axioms that refer to the >> anonymous individual and related individuals. Pellet at the moment >> (as >> far as I am aware) decides entailment axiom by axiom and tests >> concept >> satisfiability of the concept :C if it find ClassAssertion(:C _:a). > > Ooooh. Okay, makes sense (as far as I understand it). > >>> What conclusions are supposedly not entailed? =C2=A0The >>> conclusions seem = >> to >>> be like "there exists something which hasDrink foo and hasFood bar" >>> which seems plausible enough, but I haven't tried to do the >>> reasoning by >>> hand. >> >> I will forward my detailed explanation to the list then and this is >> quite a lot of work to do by hand, which is why I prefer tests that >> just test features and not tests that load ontologies with ~800 >> axioms >> in it and several entailments. It took me quite a while to figure out >> what is responsible for the (non)entailment. > > I think it's nice to have a few tests that look like real-world tests, > but in general, as a developer I totally agree. > > Thanks for all your work on this. > > -- Sandro > > >> Birte >> >>> >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0-- Sandro >>> >>>> 2. WebOnt-AnnotationProperty-001 >>>> is a positive and NOT a negative entailment test (and actually >>>> makes >>>> only really sense for RDF-Based semantics reasoner, which use a >>>> different copy of the test as a positive entailment test, this >>>> one is >>>> only for direct semantics) >>>> Agreed solution (last week) was to reject AnnotationProperty-001 >>>> and >>>> make >>>> AnnotationProperty-002 applicable to both semantics >>>> >>>> 3. WebOnt-disjointWith-010 >>>> not OWL 2 DL (invalid use of DisjointClasses), was corrected to OWL >>>> Full only >>>> >>>> 4. WebOnt-Nothing-002 (no status yet, but still stated to be OWL >>>> DL) >>>> not OWL DL >>>> >>>> 5. WebOnt-I5.8-011 >>>> was syntactically incorrect (extra > character in the premise) >>>> >>>> 6. WebOnt-I5.3-015 >>>> was not OWL 2 DL due to missing typing information, is now only OWL >>>> Full test >>>> >>>> 7. WebOnt-I5.5-004 (no status yet, but still stated to be OWL DL) >>>> not OWL 2 DL >>>> >>>> 8. WebOnt-I5.8-015 >>>> not OWL 2 DL: uses datatype data#type >>>> >>>> 9. WebOnt-I5.3-014 >>>> not OWL 2 DL: uses rdf:type in an axiom >>>> >>>> 10. WebOnt-I5.1-001 (no status, no species indicator, both >>>> semantics) >>>> not OWL 2 DL: Typing information for 'population', 'stateCode', and >>>> 'stateBird' is missing. >>>> A fix would involve an inverse-functional datatype property; hence, >>>> this test should simply not be a DL test. >>>> >>>> 11. WebOnt-I5.8-017 (no status, no species indicator, both >>>> semantics) >>>> not OWL 2 DL: uses datatype #bar >>>> >>>> 12. WebOnt-I5.5-007 (now OWL Full, RDF-Based Semantics) >>>> not OWL 2 DL: test contains an anonymous class >>>> >>>> 13. WebOnt-I5.8-013 (now OWL Full, RDF-Based semantics only) >>>> not OWL 2 DL: uses datatype #bar >>>> >>>> 14. WebOnt-I5.8-014 (no status, no species indicator, both >>>> semantics, >>>> description mentions OWL Full only) >>>> not OWL 2 DL: uses datatype data#type >>>> >>>> 15. WebOnt-I5.5-002 >>>> conclusion is in OWL 2 DL: asserts rdf:rest to be functional >>>> >>>> 16. WebOnt-I5.8-016 (now OWL Full, only RDF-Based semantics) >>>> not OWL 2 DL: uses datatype data#type >>>> >>>> 17. WebOnt-I5.5-001 >>>> conclusion is in OWL 2 DL: asserts rdf:rest to be functional >>>> >>>> 18. WebOnt-description-logic-663 >>>> Invalid conclusion ontology >>>> >>>> 19. WebOnt-I5.5-003 (no status, no species indicator, both >>>> semantics) >>>> not OWL 2 DL: the premise ontology talks about rdf:nil >>>> >>>> 20. WebOnt-someValuesFrom-001 (no species, no status) >>>> I am not sure about this one. It seems the conclusion ontology is >>>> messed up: it seems to want to use a blank node, but the RDF seems >>>> incorrect to me. The test has an invalid namespace for the >>>> semantics. >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> --=20 >> Dr. Birte Glimm, Room 306 >> Computing Laboratory >> Parks Road >> Oxford >> OX1 3QD >> United Kingdom >> +44 (0)1865 283529
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