+1 to needing better discussion of reqs. I don't however think there is a hidden agenda, I think the agendas are clear -JH On Dec 17, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Jeremy Carroll wrote: > > Jim Hendler wrote: >> <flame on - but not at Matthew> > > > without wishing to fan Jim's flames, ... > > one aspect I noted at the F2F was that there is this decidability > litmus test there is some wiggle room, and the actual drivers for > what was a compelling argument and what wasn't had to do with the > use cases and customers who we each had in mind. > > I found this was most noticeable when I talked about geometry. > Obviously this was my *personal* interest rather than a business > interest, so as HP rep, I am not going to push this. But any > computational difficulties in using OWL to describe various > geometric problems that I am interested in are basically > irrelevant, in everybody's opinion (including mine), because > geometrical reasoning (particularly the rather abstract problems > that I like) is simply not a use case. (Fundamentally because > mathematicians are poorer than bioscientists). > > > So, as HP rep, I found the Oracle presentation compelling, much > more compelling than most, because the Oracle customers and the HP > customers are similar and doing similar things. However, none of > the presentations were explicit in terms of customers, and we have > made precious little advance on a use case and requirements > document, so that the hidden differences between us (the various > members of this WG) in terms of what we are trying to do with OWL, > for whom, and why, remain hidden. > > I think, until we have made significant advance in Use Case and > Requirements, Jim will continue to feel that the rest of the group > have an agenda hidden from him, and is wanting to make decisions > that don't make sense to him. > > Jeremy > > "If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?." - Albert Einstein Prof James Hendler http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~hendler Tetherless World Constellation Chair Computer Science Dept Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY 12180
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