Re: FW: Entries and Federation management tool - LATVIA

Thanks, Nicolas.

Of course. We will be glad to listen to him. I'll share the agenda, asking
him also for joining the community group.

Best,

Martin

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:51 AM Nicolas Launois <
nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Not sure if we plan a meeting for this coming Wednesday, but the Latvian
> federation has an interesting system to share their results and the
> responsible person (Karlis) seemed keen to join the community. Could we
> give him 10mins presentation and we also introduce what we do?
>
>
>
> Have a good start of the week.
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Nicolas Launois
>
> Technology and Television Manager
>
>
>
> Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061>
>
> Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* vendredi, 13 octobre 2017 22:54
> *To:* Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>
> *Cc:* Mirko Jalava <Mirko@tilastopaja.fi>
> *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool
>
>
>
> Nicola,
>
>
>
> At what time usually is the conference call? Probably I will be able to
> join and tell about what we have created so far!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mirko,
>
>
>
> Thank you for the formulas! Made some minor adjustments :)
> https://github.com/GlaivePro/IaafPoints/commit/bf3a337bedccf0a3f76b80daac02a81bc8aa2b6b#diff-0e256a9b3120c8ea4f19b568fc1ec78d
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Karlis
>
>
>
> 2017-10-10 16:28 GMT+03:00 Nicolas Launois <
> nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>:
>
> OK, it would have been great to meet you, as your system seems to have a
> lot of interesting features.
>
> In fact, federations and vendors were able to present their system in
> Portugal, so we missed out not seeing your system.
>
> However, our community of contributors have weekly conference calls on
> Wednesdays.
>
> Here is the community: https://www.w3.org/community/opentrack/
>
>
>
> And here is the repository about the standard:
> https://github.com/w3c/opentrack-cg
>
>
>
> Tomorrow’s call is cancelled due to the Convention, but we will probably
> speak next Wednesday. Would you be able to join and tell us about your
> system? We always join the call through a screen share, for people to
> demonstrate their progress: Martin from W3C about the data standard, Any
> from ReportLab about the live capture system, etc…
>
>
>
> Nicolas Launois
>
> Technology and Television Manager
>
>
>
> Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061>
>
> Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* mardi, 10 octobre 2017 15:15
>
>
> *To:* Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>
> *Cc:* Mirko Jalava <Mirko@tilastopaja.fi>
> *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool
>
>
>
> I will not be going to Vilnius, I am not included in attendees list and
> instead the federation wants for me to get ready for our local conference
> on next Tuesday, so I will be busy preparing presentation for that.
>
>
>
> 2017-10-10 14:30 GMT+03:00 Karlis Evertovskis <
> karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com>:
>
> Dear Nicola and Mirko,
>
>
>
> *About conferences in Portugal and Vilnius*
>
>
>
> Yes, I am interested, you can send me info. I have agreed to go to
> Vilnius, but that was long time ago. I will find out from my federation if
> I am still in attendees list and get back to you asap.
>
>
>
>
>
> *About statistics*
>
>
>
> We calculated IAAF points ourselves, here is our result
> https://github.com/GlaivePro/IaafPoints
>
> But it would be interesting to compare the official formulas with the ones
> we calculated.
>
>
>
> We have created an API for statistics, here is a short description -
> https://athletics.lv/lv/stats/api-description
>
> And here are the stats - https://athletics.lv/en/stats
>
>
>
> Here is an example of top results for 100m men in XML -
> https://athletics.lv/en/stats?discipline=7;em:1;w:2&venue-type=outdoor,road&gender=m&date-from=2017-01-01&date-to=2017-12-31&country=LVA&limit=50&athlete-limit=1&format=table&fields=athlete,result,current_coach,iaaf_points,date_of_birth,wind&format=xml
>
>
>
> We will try to improve API so it is easier to select all competition
> results for a time period so each time someone wants to import, they just
> need to change dates "from" and "to" in the url and they will get all the
> results from our statistics
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-10-10 13:18 GMT+03:00 Mirko Jalava <Mirko@tilastopaja.fi>:
>
> Dear Karlis,
>
>
>
> I now have the formula for the IAAF points, 2017 edition. I will send them
> soon.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Mirko
>
>
>
> *Lähettäjä:* Nicolas Launois [mailto:
> nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org]
> *Lähetetty:* tiistai 10. lokakuuta 2017 12.57
> *Vastaanottaja:* Karlis Evertovskis <karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com>
> *Kopio:* Mirko Jalava <Mirko@tilastopaja.fi>
> *Aihe:* RE: Entries and Federation management tool
>
>
>
> Dear Karlis,
>
>
>
> We had a successful conference last week in Portugal. We can send you the
> minutes if you’re interested.
>
>
>
> Will you be in Vilnius for our data workshop?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Nicolas Launois
>
> Technology and Television Manager
>
>
>
> Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061>
>
> Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com
> <karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* mardi, 1 août 2017 19:17
> *To:* Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>
> *Cc:* Mirko Jalava <Mirko@tilastopaja.fi>
> *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool
>
>
>
> Dear Nicolas,
>
>
> Unfortunately, it seems that I will have to skip conference in Portugal.
> But I can travel to Vilnius.
>
>
>
> We are actively testing our system and adding new functions. It's work in
> progress and at the moment we have events, persons, organizations, start
> lists, results. Example -
> https://athletics.lv/en/competition/27306#round-27306+groups-of-the-round-27306
>
>
>
>
> We want to calculate IAAF points for each result (not in combined events,
> but in standart events according to IAAF scoring tables). In order to do
> that, we need formulas. On their web page there is only huge PDF scoring
> table, which is not a reasonable option. We tried to contact National
> federation, IAAF, some programming communities, but haven't got any
> response. Maybe you can help with any tips, who should I contact regarding
> this question?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Karlis Evertovskis
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-07-27 13:43 GMT+03:00 Nicolas Launois <
> nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>:
>
> Dear Karlis,
>
>
>
> Thank you for your feedback.
>
>
>
> I have copied Mirko Jalava who manages Tilastopaja and all statistics at
> European Athletics.
>
>
>
> Between the data in XML on a weekly basis or having an API, I will let
> Mirko answer this question.
>
>
>
> For the conference in Portugal, unfortunately, this year’s conference is
> not yet part of the official development activities, so European Athletics
> is not paying for flights or accommodation. But we hope to see you anyway
> in Portugal. In case you cannot travel, the company working with us for the
> results app/entries/member federation management tool and Tilastopaja will
> be with us at the Convention in Vilnius (12-14 Oct) the week after our
> conference in Portugal.
>
> The conference in Portugal is intended for technical people who have a
> system or are ready to contribute. Our presentation/activation at the
> Convention is more for federation with no system, to raise awareness on the
> fact that they need to share the results with us and that we can help with
> the relevant tools and app.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Nicolas Launois
>
> Technology and Television Manager
>
>
>
> Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061>
>
> Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* mercredi, 26 juillet 2017 23:38
> *To:* Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool
>
>
>
> Dear Nicolas,
>
>
>
> Sorry for the late reply
>
>
>
> We can make XML for events/categories and send it weekly. But we can also
> make an API where you could set dates (from-to) and get all data for
> selected time period in XML (or JSON) format. In that case it wouldn't be
> necessary to send weekly emails, instead you can get data at any time and
> probably automate the process of data exchange.
>
>
>
> Yes, I would like to attend conference about data standard in Portugal.
> Travel and accommodation expenses will be covered by European Athletics?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Karlis Evertovskis
>
>
>
> 2017-07-11 17:50 GMT+03:00 Nicolas Launois <
> nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>:
>
> Dear Karlis,
>
>
>
> I hope the implementation of the new platform is going well. Since you are
> developing this new platform, it is important that we stay in touch so that
> you can provide Tilastopaja with the Latvian results, while he could send
> you the Latvian results achieved abroad.
>
>
>
> We are working with 2 separate schemes:
>
>    - Or the federations sends us weekly their rankings, per category in
>    XML format (see attached the example from Denmark)
>    - Or the federation sends us the individual competition results per
>    event (see the example of France with their U20 and U18 competitions)
>
> Please let us know what can be done.
>
>
>
> In the same subject, we are creating a standard to define how the data
> should be exchanged in the world of athletics, for all stakeholders. We
> will discuss this topic amongst others (like data privacy, management of
> entries, visualisation of results, etc…) at a conference organised by
> European Athletics on 5-6 October in Portugal.
>
> Do you want me to keep you in the attendee list? We will send an official
> communication in the next 2 weeks.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Nicolas Launois
>
> Technology and Television Manager
>
>
>
> Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61
>
> Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* vendredi, 19 mai 2017 12:10
> *To:* Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>
> *Cc:* Chiheb Kaibi <chiheb.kaibi@european-athletics.org>; Andrew Robinson
> <andy@reportlab.com>; Dmitrijs Milkevics <dmitrijs.milkevics@athletics.lv>
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool
>
>
>
> Dear Nicolas,
>
>
>
> Thank you for the test platform. I have analysed and reviewed
> functionality of the test environment. I tested opentrack.info too, where
> I found more functionality for the same platform (competitions, results,
> start lists). Platform gives us all the necessary functionality for
> managing athletic events.
>
>
>
> We had a discussion about which platform we will be developing and decided
> that this season we will go forward with our own product, as we already
> have work in progress and we can create management system for public usage
> in a lot shorter time period and customise it for all the specific
> requirements that we have. At this moment we feel that it will take too
> much time and human resources to develop Opentrack solution for Latvian
> Athletic Federation in this season, given the circumstances.
>
>
>
> We are looking forward to working with you in future as we are also
> interested to synchronise our data with Tilastopaja and European Athletics.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Karlis Evertovskis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-05-17 13:53 GMT+03:00 Nicolas Launois <
> nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>:
>
> Dear Karlis,
>
>
>
> Thank you for getting back to us. We would actually love to be able to
> present you what we are doing through a screenshare, as they is much more
> than the entries and federation management system. We are building an app
> to record results directly from competitions and to be uploaded, we are
> also creating a standard to facilitate the data exchange between athletics
> stakeholders; meanwhile, we are creating a community of service providers
> in the field of athletics to share best practice and tools available.
>
>
>
> While you can think when we can chat and share through a screenshare, here
> are the accesses to the platforms developed:
>
> https://test-estonia.opentrack.run
>
>
>
> 1.*Testing Club Administration (Club ALEM & AUDE) – attached the user
> manual*
>
> This account can initiate requests for licence renewal, cancel a request
> for a licence renewal, add a member to the Club and edit member personal
> details.
>
> Username/Email: estonia_club_test
>
> Password: clu8_1es1
>
>
>
> 2.*Testing Estonia Federation Administration*
>
> This account can authorise or decline the renewal of a licence.
>
> Edit member personal details
>
> Edit coaching information (link / unlink athlete to coach)
>
> Username/Email: estonia_fed_test
>
> Password: f4d_1es1
>
>
>
> We look forward to further collaborating with you.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Nicolas Launois
>
>
>
> Technology and Television Manager
>
> European Athletics
>
>
>
> Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061>
>
> Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org
>
>
>
> *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* lundi 15 mai 2017 18:47
> *To:* Nicolas Launois
> *Cc:* Chiheb Kaibi; Andrew Robinson; Dmitrijs Milkevics
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool
>
>
>
> Dear Nicolas,
>
>
>
> Yes, I have a team and we are developing statistics and competition
> management system for Latvian Athletic Federation. We already have the same
> functionality with mapping athletes, competitions etc. as in your pilot
> project for Estonian Federation. And we have imported statistics for last
> 12 years.
>
>
>
> I would be more interested in the system architecture and options to
> customize the project created by ReportLab if we want to add more
> functionality - create more top-lists, generate starting lists, create
> custom rankings for coaches, clubs, athletes, creating API for online
> results, keep track of national records in all age groups and maybe
> something else. And of course importing statistics for previous years. In
> order to do that, I would like to have access to a Demo version or
> duplicated version of your project, so that we could figure out the best
> solution for all involved parties.
>
>
>
> As of now I see three options:
>
> a) we continue to develop our own system, which we can customize and use
> for all local events and add any functionality we want
>
> b) we stop our project and instead use system created by ReportLab
>
> c) we develop our own system and create an API to synchronize data with
> the main EA database
>
>
>
> To decide with which option we go forward this season, I would appreciate
> if I could test your system at least from admin panel. After that we could
> organise a screenshare for a discussion.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Karlis Evertovskis
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-05-15 11:17 GMT+03:00 Nicolas Launois <
> nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>:
>
> Dear Karlis,
>
>
>
> Dmitijs told me that the Latvian Federation is working with you in the
> field of statistics. European Athletics has the goal to collect more
> results and data from its Members Federations, in a more automated way. One
> wayto do so is to develop tool for our federations to better manage their
> data, while being shared with our statistician. To do this, European
> Athletics has jointly developed a Federation management system with
> ReportLab, through a pilot project with the Estonian Federation (
> https://estonia.opentrack.run/). This multi-lingual entry and member
> federation management tool was recently completed so it can now be
> duplicated for other federations.
>
> You will see from the homepage the various services offered. The main goal
> is to map all the athletes, clubs, competitions and venues of in the
> concerned country.
>
>
>
> We could organise a screenshare with you, Dmitrijs and our partner
> ReportLab, to discuss our possible collaboration.
>
>
>
> We look forward to discussing this topic with you.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Nicolas Launois
>
>
>
> Technology and Television Manager
>
> European Athletics
>
>
>
> Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061>
>
> Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org
>
>
>
> *From:* Dmitrijs Milkevics [mailto:dmitrijs.milkevics@athletics.lv]
> *Sent:* mercredi 10 mai 2017 12:29
> *To:* Nicolas Launois
> *Cc:* Karlis Evertovskis
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool
>
>
>
> Hello Nicolas.
>
> Karlis’ email is: karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com
>
> When the day of your conference is clear, please let me know and will be
> more than happy to join you.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Dmitrijs Miļkevičs
>
> General secretary
>
> Latvian Athletics association
>
> +371 27101020 <+371%2027%20101%20020>
>
> www.athletics.lv
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9 May 2017, at 17:51, Nicolas Launois <
> nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Dmitrijs,
>
>
>
> Thank you for coming back to me.
>
>
>
> I didn’t see Karlis’ contact in your e-mail. Can you give me his contact
> so I can organise a conf call to explain what we are currently doing.
>
>
>
> Do you also want to be part of the conference call?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Nicolas Launois
>
>
>
> Technology and Television Manager
>
> European Athletics
>
>
>
> Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061>
>
> Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org
>
>
>
> *From:* Dmitrijs Milkevics [mailto:dmitrijs.milkevics@athletics.lv
> <dmitrijs.milkevics@athletics.lv>]
> *Sent:* lundi 8 mai 2017 17:04
> *To:* Nicolas Launois
> *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool
>
>
>
> Dear Nicolas.
>
>
>
> Thank you so much for your email and information regarding the pilot
> project in Estonia.
>
> Sorry for not replying sooner, but we are extremly busy with overtaking
> our federation work, since we have a new president Ineta Radevica.
>
> We are also very interested in this kind of a project and would like to
> know more about the system itself and how can we apply it to our already
> existing statistics format.
>
> Last year our federation hired a company who started something simular
> what you are doing for Estonia. The guy in charge is Karlis Evertovskis. He
> is a man to talk with regarding the cooparation since he is a very
> technical man and knows our needs. I am including him to this email.
>
> We would be very happy to get in touch with you whenever you have a
> chance. Just let us know when you have a free time.
>
> Looking forward hearing back from you soon.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Dmitrijs Miļkevičs
> General secretary
> Latvian Athletics Association
> +371 27101020 <+371%2027%20101%20020>
> www.athletics.lv
>
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Nicolas Launois <
> nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Ineta, Dear Dmitrijs,
>
>
>
> Sirje from the Estonian Federation told me that you discussed about the
> Entries and Federation management tool we created, as a pilot project, with
> their help.
>
>
>
> ReportLab (Andy, the CEO of the company is copied in this e-mail) helped
> us develop this multi-lingual entry and member federation management tool
> for the Estonian federation (https://estonia.opentrack.run/). As the
> project is now complete, it can be duplicated for other federations.
>
> You will see from the homepage the various services offered. The main goal
> is to map all the athletes, clubs, competitions and venues of your country.
> Once this is done, you can manage the entries of the competitions and
> export it to the results system of the federation. You can also see that it
> covers statistics, showing the rankings and athletes’ profiles. All
> statistics come from Tilastopaja (see Gert Kanter
> <https://estonia.opentrack.run/people/ba75a2d7-1d31-4603-b236-053199e12660/>’s
> profile).
>
>
>
> In addition, we are implementing a live results platform to capture the
> results of your competitions, to be directly available online and
> published. This 2nd project is currently being developed and will be
> ready for the summer season.
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you want that I organise a screenshare (like a Skype
> where we can show you the services of the platform) with ReportLab for you
> and any people in the federation interested in this solution.
>
>
>
> We look forward to showing more of what this tool can bring to your
> federation.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Nicolas Launois
>
> Technology and Television Manager
>
>
>
> European Athletics
>
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