- From: Martin Alvarez-Espinar <martin@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 10:32:29 +0000
- To: Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>, "public-opentrack@w3.org" <public-opentrack@w3.org>
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Thanks, Nicolas. Of course. We will be glad to listen to him. I'll share the agenda, asking him also for joining the community group. Best, Martin On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:51 AM Nicolas Launois < nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> wrote: > Dear all, > > > > Not sure if we plan a meeting for this coming Wednesday, but the Latvian > federation has an interesting system to share their results and the > responsible person (Karlis) seemed keen to join the community. Could we > give him 10mins presentation and we also introduce what we do? > > > > Have a good start of the week. > > Best regards > > > > Nicolas Launois > > Technology and Television Manager > > > > Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061> > > Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org > > > > > > *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com] > *Sent:* vendredi, 13 octobre 2017 22:54 > *To:* Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> > *Cc:* Mirko Jalava <Mirko@tilastopaja.fi> > *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool > > > > Nicola, > > > > At what time usually is the conference call? Probably I will be able to > join and tell about what we have created so far! > > > > > > > > Mirko, > > > > Thank you for the formulas! Made some minor adjustments :) > https://github.com/GlaivePro/IaafPoints/commit/bf3a337bedccf0a3f76b80daac02a81bc8aa2b6b#diff-0e256a9b3120c8ea4f19b568fc1ec78d > > > > > > Best Regards, > > Karlis > > > > 2017-10-10 16:28 GMT+03:00 Nicolas Launois < > nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>: > > OK, it would have been great to meet you, as your system seems to have a > lot of interesting features. > > In fact, federations and vendors were able to present their system in > Portugal, so we missed out not seeing your system. > > However, our community of contributors have weekly conference calls on > Wednesdays. > > Here is the community: https://www.w3.org/community/opentrack/ > > > > And here is the repository about the standard: > https://github.com/w3c/opentrack-cg > > > > Tomorrow’s call is cancelled due to the Convention, but we will probably > speak next Wednesday. Would you be able to join and tell us about your > system? We always join the call through a screen share, for people to > demonstrate their progress: Martin from W3C about the data standard, Any > from ReportLab about the live capture system, etc… > > > > Nicolas Launois > > Technology and Television Manager > > > > Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061> > > Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org > > > > > > *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com] > *Sent:* mardi, 10 octobre 2017 15:15 > > > *To:* Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> > *Cc:* Mirko Jalava <Mirko@tilastopaja.fi> > *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool > > > > I will not be going to Vilnius, I am not included in attendees list and > instead the federation wants for me to get ready for our local conference > on next Tuesday, so I will be busy preparing presentation for that. > > > > 2017-10-10 14:30 GMT+03:00 Karlis Evertovskis < > karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com>: > > Dear Nicola and Mirko, > > > > *About conferences in Portugal and Vilnius* > > > > Yes, I am interested, you can send me info. I have agreed to go to > Vilnius, but that was long time ago. I will find out from my federation if > I am still in attendees list and get back to you asap. > > > > > > *About statistics* > > > > We calculated IAAF points ourselves, here is our result > https://github.com/GlaivePro/IaafPoints > > But it would be interesting to compare the official formulas with the ones > we calculated. > > > > We have created an API for statistics, here is a short description - > https://athletics.lv/lv/stats/api-description > > And here are the stats - https://athletics.lv/en/stats > > > > Here is an example of top results for 100m men in XML - > https://athletics.lv/en/stats?discipline=7;em:1;w:2&venue-type=outdoor,road&gender=m&date-from=2017-01-01&date-to=2017-12-31&country=LVA&limit=50&athlete-limit=1&format=table&fields=athlete,result,current_coach,iaaf_points,date_of_birth,wind&format=xml > > > > We will try to improve API so it is easier to select all competition > results for a time period so each time someone wants to import, they just > need to change dates "from" and "to" in the url and they will get all the > results from our statistics > > > > > > > > > > 2017-10-10 13:18 GMT+03:00 Mirko Jalava <Mirko@tilastopaja.fi>: > > Dear Karlis, > > > > I now have the formula for the IAAF points, 2017 edition. I will send them > soon. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Mirko > > > > *Lähettäjä:* Nicolas Launois [mailto: > nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org] > *Lähetetty:* tiistai 10. lokakuuta 2017 12.57 > *Vastaanottaja:* Karlis Evertovskis <karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com> > *Kopio:* Mirko Jalava <Mirko@tilastopaja.fi> > *Aihe:* RE: Entries and Federation management tool > > > > Dear Karlis, > > > > We had a successful conference last week in Portugal. We can send you the > minutes if you’re interested. > > > > Will you be in Vilnius for our data workshop? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Nicolas Launois > > Technology and Television Manager > > > > Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061> > > Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org > > > > > > *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com > <karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* mardi, 1 août 2017 19:17 > *To:* Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> > *Cc:* Mirko Jalava <Mirko@tilastopaja.fi> > *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool > > > > Dear Nicolas, > > > Unfortunately, it seems that I will have to skip conference in Portugal. > But I can travel to Vilnius. > > > > We are actively testing our system and adding new functions. It's work in > progress and at the moment we have events, persons, organizations, start > lists, results. Example - > https://athletics.lv/en/competition/27306#round-27306+groups-of-the-round-27306 > > > > > We want to calculate IAAF points for each result (not in combined events, > but in standart events according to IAAF scoring tables). In order to do > that, we need formulas. On their web page there is only huge PDF scoring > table, which is not a reasonable option. We tried to contact National > federation, IAAF, some programming communities, but haven't got any > response. Maybe you can help with any tips, who should I contact regarding > this question? > > > > Best Regards, > > Karlis Evertovskis > > > > > > 2017-07-27 13:43 GMT+03:00 Nicolas Launois < > nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>: > > Dear Karlis, > > > > Thank you for your feedback. > > > > I have copied Mirko Jalava who manages Tilastopaja and all statistics at > European Athletics. > > > > Between the data in XML on a weekly basis or having an API, I will let > Mirko answer this question. > > > > For the conference in Portugal, unfortunately, this year’s conference is > not yet part of the official development activities, so European Athletics > is not paying for flights or accommodation. But we hope to see you anyway > in Portugal. In case you cannot travel, the company working with us for the > results app/entries/member federation management tool and Tilastopaja will > be with us at the Convention in Vilnius (12-14 Oct) the week after our > conference in Portugal. > > The conference in Portugal is intended for technical people who have a > system or are ready to contribute. Our presentation/activation at the > Convention is more for federation with no system, to raise awareness on the > fact that they need to share the results with us and that we can help with > the relevant tools and app. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Nicolas Launois > > Technology and Television Manager > > > > Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061> > > Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org > > > > > > *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com] > *Sent:* mercredi, 26 juillet 2017 23:38 > *To:* Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> > > > *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool > > > > Dear Nicolas, > > > > Sorry for the late reply > > > > We can make XML for events/categories and send it weekly. But we can also > make an API where you could set dates (from-to) and get all data for > selected time period in XML (or JSON) format. In that case it wouldn't be > necessary to send weekly emails, instead you can get data at any time and > probably automate the process of data exchange. > > > > Yes, I would like to attend conference about data standard in Portugal. > Travel and accommodation expenses will be covered by European Athletics? > > > > Best Regards, > > Karlis Evertovskis > > > > 2017-07-11 17:50 GMT+03:00 Nicolas Launois < > nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>: > > Dear Karlis, > > > > I hope the implementation of the new platform is going well. Since you are > developing this new platform, it is important that we stay in touch so that > you can provide Tilastopaja with the Latvian results, while he could send > you the Latvian results achieved abroad. > > > > We are working with 2 separate schemes: > > - Or the federations sends us weekly their rankings, per category in > XML format (see attached the example from Denmark) > - Or the federation sends us the individual competition results per > event (see the example of France with their U20 and U18 competitions) > > Please let us know what can be done. > > > > In the same subject, we are creating a standard to define how the data > should be exchanged in the world of athletics, for all stakeholders. We > will discuss this topic amongst others (like data privacy, management of > entries, visualisation of results, etc…) at a conference organised by > European Athletics on 5-6 October in Portugal. > > Do you want me to keep you in the attendee list? We will send an official > communication in the next 2 weeks. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Nicolas Launois > > Technology and Television Manager > > > > Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 > > Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org > > > > > > *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com] > *Sent:* vendredi, 19 mai 2017 12:10 > *To:* Nicolas Launois <nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> > *Cc:* Chiheb Kaibi <chiheb.kaibi@european-athletics.org>; Andrew Robinson > <andy@reportlab.com>; Dmitrijs Milkevics <dmitrijs.milkevics@athletics.lv> > > > *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool > > > > Dear Nicolas, > > > > Thank you for the test platform. I have analysed and reviewed > functionality of the test environment. I tested opentrack.info too, where > I found more functionality for the same platform (competitions, results, > start lists). Platform gives us all the necessary functionality for > managing athletic events. > > > > We had a discussion about which platform we will be developing and decided > that this season we will go forward with our own product, as we already > have work in progress and we can create management system for public usage > in a lot shorter time period and customise it for all the specific > requirements that we have. At this moment we feel that it will take too > much time and human resources to develop Opentrack solution for Latvian > Athletic Federation in this season, given the circumstances. > > > > We are looking forward to working with you in future as we are also > interested to synchronise our data with Tilastopaja and European Athletics. > > > > Best Regards, > > Karlis Evertovskis > > > > > > > > 2017-05-17 13:53 GMT+03:00 Nicolas Launois < > nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>: > > Dear Karlis, > > > > Thank you for getting back to us. We would actually love to be able to > present you what we are doing through a screenshare, as they is much more > than the entries and federation management system. We are building an app > to record results directly from competitions and to be uploaded, we are > also creating a standard to facilitate the data exchange between athletics > stakeholders; meanwhile, we are creating a community of service providers > in the field of athletics to share best practice and tools available. > > > > While you can think when we can chat and share through a screenshare, here > are the accesses to the platforms developed: > > https://test-estonia.opentrack.run > > > > 1.*Testing Club Administration (Club ALEM & AUDE) – attached the user > manual* > > This account can initiate requests for licence renewal, cancel a request > for a licence renewal, add a member to the Club and edit member personal > details. > > Username/Email: estonia_club_test > > Password: clu8_1es1 > > > > 2.*Testing Estonia Federation Administration* > > This account can authorise or decline the renewal of a licence. > > Edit member personal details > > Edit coaching information (link / unlink athlete to coach) > > Username/Email: estonia_fed_test > > Password: f4d_1es1 > > > > We look forward to further collaborating with you. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Nicolas Launois > > > > Technology and Television Manager > > European Athletics > > > > Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061> > > Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org > > > > *From:* Karlis Evertovskis [mailto:karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com] > *Sent:* lundi 15 mai 2017 18:47 > *To:* Nicolas Launois > *Cc:* Chiheb Kaibi; Andrew Robinson; Dmitrijs Milkevics > > > *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool > > > > Dear Nicolas, > > > > Yes, I have a team and we are developing statistics and competition > management system for Latvian Athletic Federation. We already have the same > functionality with mapping athletes, competitions etc. as in your pilot > project for Estonian Federation. And we have imported statistics for last > 12 years. > > > > I would be more interested in the system architecture and options to > customize the project created by ReportLab if we want to add more > functionality - create more top-lists, generate starting lists, create > custom rankings for coaches, clubs, athletes, creating API for online > results, keep track of national records in all age groups and maybe > something else. And of course importing statistics for previous years. In > order to do that, I would like to have access to a Demo version or > duplicated version of your project, so that we could figure out the best > solution for all involved parties. > > > > As of now I see three options: > > a) we continue to develop our own system, which we can customize and use > for all local events and add any functionality we want > > b) we stop our project and instead use system created by ReportLab > > c) we develop our own system and create an API to synchronize data with > the main EA database > > > > To decide with which option we go forward this season, I would appreciate > if I could test your system at least from admin panel. After that we could > organise a screenshare for a discussion. > > > > Best Regards, > > Karlis Evertovskis > > > > > > 2017-05-15 11:17 GMT+03:00 Nicolas Launois < > nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org>: > > Dear Karlis, > > > > Dmitijs told me that the Latvian Federation is working with you in the > field of statistics. European Athletics has the goal to collect more > results and data from its Members Federations, in a more automated way. One > wayto do so is to develop tool for our federations to better manage their > data, while being shared with our statistician. To do this, European > Athletics has jointly developed a Federation management system with > ReportLab, through a pilot project with the Estonian Federation ( > https://estonia.opentrack.run/). This multi-lingual entry and member > federation management tool was recently completed so it can now be > duplicated for other federations. > > You will see from the homepage the various services offered. The main goal > is to map all the athletes, clubs, competitions and venues of in the > concerned country. > > > > We could organise a screenshare with you, Dmitrijs and our partner > ReportLab, to discuss our possible collaboration. > > > > We look forward to discussing this topic with you. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Nicolas Launois > > > > Technology and Television Manager > > European Athletics > > > > Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061> > > Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org > > > > *From:* Dmitrijs Milkevics [mailto:dmitrijs.milkevics@athletics.lv] > *Sent:* mercredi 10 mai 2017 12:29 > *To:* Nicolas Launois > *Cc:* Karlis Evertovskis > > > *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool > > > > Hello Nicolas. > > Karlis’ email is: karlis.evertovskis@gmail.com > > When the day of your conference is clear, please let me know and will be > more than happy to join you. > > Thank you. > > > > Dmitrijs Miļkevičs > > General secretary > > Latvian Athletics association > > +371 27101020 <+371%2027%20101%20020> > > www.athletics.lv > > > > > > > > On 9 May 2017, at 17:51, Nicolas Launois < > nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> wrote: > > > > Dear Dmitrijs, > > > > Thank you for coming back to me. > > > > I didn’t see Karlis’ contact in your e-mail. Can you give me his contact > so I can organise a conf call to explain what we are currently doing. > > > > Do you also want to be part of the conference call? > > > > Best regards, > > > > Nicolas Launois > > > > Technology and Television Manager > > European Athletics > > > > Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061> > > Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org > > > > *From:* Dmitrijs Milkevics [mailto:dmitrijs.milkevics@athletics.lv > <dmitrijs.milkevics@athletics.lv>] > *Sent:* lundi 8 mai 2017 17:04 > *To:* Nicolas Launois > *Subject:* Re: Entries and Federation management tool > > > > Dear Nicolas. > > > > Thank you so much for your email and information regarding the pilot > project in Estonia. > > Sorry for not replying sooner, but we are extremly busy with overtaking > our federation work, since we have a new president Ineta Radevica. > > We are also very interested in this kind of a project and would like to > know more about the system itself and how can we apply it to our already > existing statistics format. > > Last year our federation hired a company who started something simular > what you are doing for Estonia. The guy in charge is Karlis Evertovskis. He > is a man to talk with regarding the cooparation since he is a very > technical man and knows our needs. I am including him to this email. > > We would be very happy to get in touch with you whenever you have a > chance. Just let us know when you have a free time. > > Looking forward hearing back from you soon. > > > > Best regards, > Dmitrijs Miļkevičs > General secretary > Latvian Athletics Association > +371 27101020 <+371%2027%20101%20020> > www.athletics.lv > > > > On Apr 25, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Nicolas Launois < > nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org> wrote: > > > > Dear Ineta, Dear Dmitrijs, > > > > Sirje from the Estonian Federation told me that you discussed about the > Entries and Federation management tool we created, as a pilot project, with > their help. > > > > ReportLab (Andy, the CEO of the company is copied in this e-mail) helped > us develop this multi-lingual entry and member federation management tool > for the Estonian federation (https://estonia.opentrack.run/). As the > project is now complete, it can be duplicated for other federations. > > You will see from the homepage the various services offered. The main goal > is to map all the athletes, clubs, competitions and venues of your country. > Once this is done, you can manage the entries of the competitions and > export it to the results system of the federation. You can also see that it > covers statistics, showing the rankings and athletes’ profiles. All > statistics come from Tilastopaja (see Gert Kanter > <https://estonia.opentrack.run/people/ba75a2d7-1d31-4603-b236-053199e12660/>’s > profile). > > > > In addition, we are implementing a live results platform to capture the > results of your competitions, to be directly available online and > published. This 2nd project is currently being developed and will be > ready for the summer season. > > > > Please let me know if you want that I organise a screenshare (like a Skype > where we can show you the services of the platform) with ReportLab for you > and any people in the federation interested in this solution. > > > > We look forward to showing more of what this tool can bring to your > federation. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Nicolas Launois > > Technology and Television Manager > > > > European Athletics > > Avenue Louis Ruchonnet 16 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=Avenue+Louis+Ruchonnet+16%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+CH-1003+Lausanne,+Switzerland&entry=gmail&source=g> > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=Avenue%0D+Louis+Ruchonnet+16%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+CH-1003%0D+Lausanne,+Switzerland+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3DAvenue%2BLouis%2BRuchonnet%2B16%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2BCH-1003%2BLausanne,%2BSwitzerland%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g> > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=Avenue%0D+Louis+Ruchonnet+16%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+CH-1003%0D+Lausanne,+Switzerland+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3DAvenue%2BLouis%2BRuchonnet%2B16%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2BCH-1003%2BLausanne,%2BSwitzerland%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g> > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=Avenue%0D+Louis+Ruchonnet+16%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+CH-1003%0D+Lausanne,+Switzerland+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3DAvenue%2BLouis%2BRuchonnet%2B16%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2BCH-1003%2BLausanne,%2BSwitzerland%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g> > > CH-1003 Lausanne, Switzerland > <https://maps.google.com/?q=Avenue+Louis+Ruchonnet+16%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+CH-1003+Lausanne,+Switzerland&entry=gmail&source=g> > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=Avenue%0D+Louis+Ruchonnet+16%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+CH-1003%0D+Lausanne,+Switzerland+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3DAvenue%2BLouis%2BRuchonnet%2B16%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2BCH-1003%2BLausanne,%2BSwitzerland%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g> > > <https://maps.google.com/?q=Avenue%0D+Louis+Ruchonnet+16%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+%0D+CH-1003%0D+Lausanne,+Switzerland+%3Chttps://maps.google.com/?q%3DAvenue%2BLouis%2BRuchonnet%2B16%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2B%250D%2BCH-1003%2BLausanne,%2BSwitzerland%26entry%3Dgmail%26source%3Dg%3E&entry=gmail&source=g> > > > > Telephone: +41 21 313 43 69 <+41%2021%20313%2043%2069> > > Fax: +41 21 313 43 51 <+41%2021%20313%2043%2051> > > Mobile: +41 79 820 00 61 <+41%2079%20820%2000%2061> > > Email: nicolas.launois@european-athletics.org > > > > Follow us at: > > www.european-athletics.org > > www.facebook.com/EuropeanAthletics > > www.twitter.com/EuroAthletics > > www.youtube.com/EuropeanAthletics > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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