Re: Meeting 17 May - Agenda

Thanks, Chiheb, Andy. It sounds good to me (partially). Maybe this is
better for a generic sports vocabulary.

Your proposal is:
'Event' (competition) > 'Phase' (preliminary rounds, semifinals, final) >
'Unit Competition' (heats in rounds, the race/field event itself) , right?

I agree we should include 'Unit' Competition, but I disagree with 'phase'.
Please note that this first version is a conceptual model, it does not
include the final "tags" and "codes", but it should be easy to understand
how a competition may be structured. In my opinion 'round' is more used
than 'phase'. For instance:
- Wikipedia [1] just mentions stage and rounds, no phase.
- NBC News [2] just rounds.
- USATF rules just [3] rounds
- IAAF uses the term 'round' and 'heats' [4],
- EA only refers to 'rounds' as well [5].

So I cannot find 'phase' as a common term to say 'round'.

What do you think?

Thanks in advance.

Martin

PS. The good thing is that the model seems to represent the same concepts.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_metres_at_the_Olympics
[2] http://www.nbcolympics.com/news/track-and-field-101-competition-format
[3] *http://www.usatf.org/usatf/files/f3/f389124f-b49d-49ee-a45a-d033a2480559.pdf
<http://www.usatf.org/usatf/files/f3/f389124f-b49d-49ee-a45a-d033a2480559.pdf> *
[4]
https://www.iaaf.org/download/download?filename=89ed4cba-6b5e-49fe-a43e-9f5487b77a84.pdf&urlslug=IAAF%20Competition%20Rules%202016-2017%2C%20in%20force%20from%201%20November%202015%20(Chapter%203%20%E2%80%93%20Anti-Doping%20Rules%20of%20this%20edition%20of%20the%20rule%20book%20are%20no%20longer%20in%20force
)
[5]
http://www.european-athletics.org/competitions/european-athletics-indoor-championships/2017/athletics/event/mens-400m/phase=atm004900/index.html

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 4:48 PM Andy Robinson <andy@reportlab.com> wrote:

> On 18 May 2017 at 15:25, Chiheb Kaibi <chiheb.kaibi@european-athletics.org
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello Martin,
>>
>>
>>
>> After a second look at your example for a 100m competition, we have some
>> comments here at EA.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> You use the words stage and round here. Maybe we should stay closer to
>> what the IOC proposed in the ODF. They use the words Phase and Units for
>> these levels in the competition structure. Have a look at the following
>> chart:
>>
>
> We were having exactly the same discussion on the whiteboard in London, as
> I have to rename/name some database tables urgently.
>
> I like these IOC terms - "Phase" and "Unit".   I imagine it comes ourt of
> years of arguing by experiences sports administrators.
>
> I prefer "Unit" to "Round", because we are already using integer round
> values (round 1, round 2, round 3) as attributes of the Unit; and because
> 'round' is a reserved word and built-in function in many programming
> languages.
>
> In FinishLynx every race file has a first line with four facts at the
> beginning, and we will be getting a huge volume of data in this format,
>
>      event_id, round, heat, event_name, [then lots more stuff ]
>
> round and heat are integers with a default of 1.  So it's very useful to
> call the class or table "Unit" and to know that 'round' just holds an
> integer.
>
> I wish we could get together and thrash this out.
>
> - Andy
>
>
>