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Re: Web annotations for physical texts

From: Tim Thompson <timathom@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 18:00:01 -0400
Message-ID: <CAPPeUfi22EzA7KqrhrgP1OvNL7w2Z7p1EeAtRcgH3h1tGqJtvg@mail.gmail.com>
To: byoung@bigbluehat.com
Cc: gklyne@googlemail.com, sgharms@stevengharms.com, public-openannotation@w3.org
Steven,

Princeton University Library had a project to use Web Annotations with
other ontologies being developed by the library community (such as
BIBFRAME: https://www.loc.gov/bibframe/). The work focused on marking up
dedications in books in the library of the French philosopher Jacques
Derrida. There is some documentation here, as well as the data that was
produced: https://github.com/pulcams/ld4p.

Best,
Tim

--
Tim A. Thompson
Discovery Metadata Librarian
Yale University Library

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 5:17 PM Benjamin Young <byoung@bigbluehat.com>
wrote:

> Glad to hear this is being explored! And thank you both for adding your
> thoughts here. Steven, special thanks to you for kicking this off (and
> great post, btw!). :)
>
> One option for books is to use URN's for the targets:
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml
>
> Of the ones registered there you'll find `isbn` and `issn` among several
> others.
>
> The next steps (for physical things) is how you refine that target--into
> what Web Annotation Data Model calls a SpecificResource:
> https://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-vocab/#specificresource
>
> Essentially, those are a target.source (the URN above), and some sort of
> "selector" (or locator). That's where the invention and exploration
> probably need the most work. :) Usually, for print, that's some combination
> of page number, line number, and/or exact quote (or text range, etc).
>
> I'd be very curious to see this explored more, and hope that I and others
> here can help in that in some way. :)
>
> Thanks for sharing your hopes here!
> Benjamin
>
> --
>
> http://bigbluehat.com/
>
> http://linkedin.com/in/benjaminyoung
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Graham Klyne <gklyne@googlemail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2018 5:04 PM
> *To:* sgharms@stevengharms.com
> *Cc:* public-openannotation@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: Web annotations for physical texts
>
> I'm currently doing some linked data work using Web Annotations applied to
> physical places, and I'm not seeing any real problems with this (just a
> need to be clear what a URI is referring to).  I'm actually finding them to
> be quite a powerful tool for capturing contextualised descriptions in
> linked data (with a modest additions).
>
> #g.
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2018, 21:46 Steven Harms, <sgharms@stevengharms.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am interested in creating annotations on physical books [1
> <https://stevengharms.com/research/semweb-topic/problem_statement/>].
>
> As the name "web annotations" suggests, the default target of the Web
> Annotation Working Group would be, of course, to annotation IRI-referable
> targets with IRI-identifiable Annotations.
>
> 1. Is there a model whereby we could point to a physical resource in a URI
> / IRI format (and thus join the existing Web Annotation universe, *or*
> 2. Is there a framework that might support referring to physical books
> that I've simply not found
> 3. Or should I plan to use JSON-LD to create "forge my own path?"
>
> I hope to post an example of what #3 might look like, but I'd like to
> double check my understanding before engaging in in such an effort, *tabula
> rasa*.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steven
>
>
> [1]: https://stevengharms.com/research/semweb-topic/problem_statement/
>
> --
> Steven G. Harms
> PGP: E6052DAF
> <https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x337AF45BE6052DAF>
>
>
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