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Re: FYI: Public Draft of the W3C Annotation Working Group Charter

From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 16:28:20 -0500
Message-ID: <52F15B74.6010008@w3.org>
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
CC: Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com>, Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>, public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>, W3C Public Annotation List <public-annotation@w3.org>
Hi, Bob–

The Force11 Data Citation Principles are interesting, and I certainly 
support them; they seem very much in line with TimBL's thinking about 
Linked Open Data and "five-star data".

While I agree with Ivan that we need to keep a focused scope, I'm 
curious what specifically you would like to see in the charter?

Much of the Force11 Data Citation Principles seem to be about publishing 
guidelines or citation guidelines, not annotations per se. Are you 
suggesting that the robust anchoring try to address data citation as 
well as document anchoring? Or is there some other way in which "data" 
could be more explicitly in scope?

Regards-
-Doug

On 2/4/14 11:53 AM, Ivan Herman wrote:
>
> On 04 Feb 2014, at 16:28 , Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is good news and I add my thanks.
>>
>> It will be no surprise to OA followers that only problem I have
>> with the early draft is that it does not unambiguously put data
>> annotation in the scope.  This is all the more disappointing given
>> the quite interesting efforts that Tim and Ivan have pointed out
>> in public-openannotation@w3.org about data citation practices,
>> e.g. http://force11.org/datacitation, in the context of increasing
>> pressure from funding agencies to provide the data behind the
>> conclusions of scientific publications.
>
> Bob,
>
> obviously:-) I am aware of the data publishing issues. And I think it
> is correct to say that part of the work that is planned in the group
> (namely the finalization of the data model) would certainly be usable
> for data annotation as well.
>
> However... the work on API-s, RESTful or not, would, I believe, be
> very different when we talk about annotation on data and about
> annotation on web pages or digital books. And the sad reality is that
> we have to make a choice in the scope because we cannot cover
> everything in one place. Hence the current focus on the 'traditional'
> Web issues.
>
> That being said: we are certainly open to either enlarge the scope
> or, possibly at a later point, spawn a different group with a
> different scope that would look at the annotation of data publishing.
> It is a matter of 'submissions' in the general sense, a maturity of
> the technology in terms of a possible standardization, communities
> that are ready to step up... Let us see where the public discussion
> goes!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ivan
>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Paolo Ciccarese
>> <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear Community Group Members, As anticipated W3C may start a
>>> Working Group to standardize the major building blocks for
>>> annotations.
>>>
>>> Thanks to the work of Ivan Herman and Doug Schepers, an 'advance
>>> notice' has been issued to the W3C members[1] and a very early
>>> draft for the Working Group Charter [2] has been made available
>>> publicly.
>>>
>>> Any comments are welcome to finalize the draft. The best is to
>>> send them to the public-annotation@w3.org mailing list whose role
>>> is to collect all the comments coming from the community at
>>> large.
>>>
>>> Best, Paolo & Rob
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2014Feb/0000.html
>>>
>>>
[2] http://www.w3.org/2014/01/Ann-charter.html
>>>
>>> -- Dr. Paolo Ciccarese http://www.paolociccarese.info/ Biomedical
>>> Informatics Research & Development Instructor of Neurology at
>>> Harvard Medical School Assistant in Neuroscience at Mass General
>>> Hospital Member of the MGH Biomedical Informatics Core
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Robert A. Morris
>>
>> Emeritus Professor  of Computer Science UMASS-Boston 100 Morrissey
>> Blvd Boston, MA 02125-3390
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>>
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>
>
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