- From: Bob Morris <morris.bob@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 15:38:16 -0400
- To: Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-openannotation <public-openannotation@w3.org>
Hmmm. Come to think of it, consider parsing in natural English ("subject predicate object"), we would expect that it is not the Target, but rather the oa:Annotation that is being annotatedAt 2014-02-17T09:46:11EST, . At the very least, to preserve your model and natural English, the creation predicates would need changing to a form like the pav: forms, which suggests that (a)the pav: forms are enough alone (b) the breadth of the PROV expressiveness is so high that, has Herbert et al. suggest, OA could express its use as connected by a single top-level provenance predicate ("oa:hasProvenance") with rdfs:range in PROV, perhaps along with some minimal expected prov terms. None of the above is meant to address your questions about what should be the nature of update history. IMO this is a very domain-specific issue. For example, the scientific names of species change over time, each change associated with a publication. The order of these changes and the provenance of citations of them, is very relevant and ,sadly, often impossible to memorialize in one or another relational database. Thus arguably, if a set of annotations is about species, then having nothing but "original" and "latest" updates to an annotation might be far from enough. On the other hand, consider an annotation of <http://mbta.com/commuterRailLine/Fitchburg#> which has Body a train schedule object. This might well do with only a 'lastUpdate' attribute. Bob On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Paolo Ciccarese <paolo.ciccarese@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > I am currently developing the Annotopia Open Annotation server [1][2][3] and > there are a few topics that I believe would be wise to discuss in the > mailing list in order to collect some additional feedback. > > I will start with one topic: keeping track of annotation creation and update > (date/agent). > > I collected some non conclusive thoughts here: > http://hcklab.blogspot.com/2014/04/annotopia-creationupdates-with-open.html > > No versioning for now. If that is of interest, months ago, I wrote some > thoughts here: http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/wiki/Versioning > > In short, I am currently thinking of using PAV [4] with something like this: > > { > "@id" : "http://host/s/annotation/830ED7EE-BF7B-4A18-8AE1-A9AF96AC135B", > "@type" : "oa:Annotation", > "annotatedAt" : "2014-02-17T09:46:11EST", > "annotatedBy" : { > "@id" : "http://orcid.org/0000-0002-5156-2703", > "@type" : "foaf:Person", > "name" : "Paolo Ciccarese" > }, > "pav:createdOn" : "2014-02-17T09:48:11EST", > "pav:createdBy" : { > "@id" : "http://orcid.org/0000-0002-5156-2703", > "@type" : "foaf:Person", > "name" : "Paolo Ciccarese" > }, > "pav:lastUpdateOn" : "2014-03-11T11:46:11EST", > "pav:lastUpdateBy" : { > "@id" : "http://example.org/johndoe", > "@type" : "foaf:Person", > "name" : "John Doe" > } > ... > } > > Where: > (i) 'createdOn/createdBy' for the original creation on the (Annotopia) > server > (ii) 'lastUpdateOn/lastUpdateBy' for the last update on the (Annotopia) > server > > Question is: what is 'annotatedAt' going to indicate once the annotation has > been updated? The original creation or the latest update? In fact, some > application will understand only the 'annotatedAt' property. > > Another option I have, to keep the actual annotation pure OA, is to collect > the additional provenance data in a separate provenance graph that can be > provided on demand by who can understand it. > > Any thoughts? > > Best, > Paolo > > [1] GitHub (Code/wiki): https://github.com/Annotopia/AtSmartStorage > [2] Slides (living documentation): > http://www.slideshare.net/paolociccarese/annotopia-overview-by-paolo-ciccarese > [3] Talk @ 'I Annotate 2014' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGvUbFv0Zl8 > [4] PAV: http://www.jbiomedsem.com/content/4/1/37 > > -- > Dr. Paolo Ciccarese > Assistant Professor of Neurology, Harvard Medical School > Assistant in Neuroscience, Massachusetts General Hospital > Senior Information Scientist, MGH Biomedical Informatics Core > -- Robert A. Morris Emeritus Professor of Computer Science UMASS-Boston 100 Morrissey Blvd Boston, MA 02125-3390 Filtered Push Project Harvard University Herbaria Harvard University email: morris.bob@gmail.com web: http://efg.cs.umb.edu/ web: http://wiki.filteredpush.org http://www.cs.umb.edu/~ram === The content of this communication is made entirely on my own behalf and in no way should be deemed to express official positions of The University of Massachusetts at Boston or Harvard University.
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