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Re: Activity List Discussion Summary

From: Leigh Dodds <leigh.dodds@theodi.org>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 09:57:56 +0100
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To: Raymond de Bourbon <RdeBourbon@omnicogroup.com>
Cc: Will Barr <Will.Barr@gll.org>, "public-openactive@w3.org" <public-openactive@w3.org>

Some of my colleagues at the ODI have spoken to 4Global previously about
sharing activity lists, but conversation hasn't moved forward. I'll see if
we can restart that to get them involved here.



On 15 May 2017 at 09:50, Raymond de Bourbon <RdeBourbon@omnicogroup.com>

> I spoke to 4Global at our User Group recently about potentially getting a
> hold of their lists to try and reduce duplicated effort - but nothing much
> has happened since then.
> I'll email our contact again and try get some more feedback.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Barr [mailto:Will.Barr@GLL.ORG]
> Sent: 12 May 2017 17:13
> To: Leigh Dodds <leigh.dodds@theodi.org>; public-openactive@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Activity List Discussion Summary
> Is anyone talking to 4Global DataHub as they have already done a huge
> amount of work on data standardisation including activities?
> The DataHub is supposed to represent the sector standards so there does
> seem to be some duplication of effort here
> Regards
> Will
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Leigh Dodds <leigh.dodds@theodi.org>
> Date: 12/05/2017 16:44 (GMT+00:00)
> To: public-openactive@w3.org
> Subject: Activity List Discussion Summary
> Hi,
> This is the second of the summaries from our hangout this week. In the
> second half of the call we reviewed the progress and plans around
> developing our shared activity list.
> This call was our first chance to discuss the initial progress of
> developing the list, lead by Kim, Becky and Jade. The ongoing, working
> draft version is at [1].
> We discussed:
> * requirements for the list, e.g. its use in supporting searching and
> browsing for opportunities, integrating data across platforms and in
> reporting. There's a clear need to balance these requirements: the list
> needs to support searching by end-users, but data integration is also an
> important enabler for openactive as a whole
> * The top terms of the list. The key decision was to remove the top-level
> split between Sports and Physical Activities, if these are retained they
> will be handled as collections. This reduces the list to 2 levels, not 3
> * Whether to have a single or multiple levels in the hierarchy. I think
> the consensus, based on our previous discussions is to have multiple
> levels, but also note we need to include, e.g. in the primer, some notes
> about how the list can be used, to support searching
> * Need for more detailed review of some terms, including their labelling,
> descriptions, etc
> * Focusing on the terms and their metadata before working further on
> collections
> * Using trademarks as an indicator for including branded programmes in the
> list. It's one useful indicator of visibility to participants
> * That the list may need review by additional groups. Jade has reached out
> to UK Active for input.
> * That the list should include unique identifiers to help with versioning
> * That the term labels will be formatted for display to users.
> The key debate was around the process for moving forward. There were some
> different views about the best way forward, e.g:
> * just publish the list, after some further review by the group
> * inviting further review and feedback from specific groups before
> publishing more widely
> The balancing act here is fulfilling immediate needs of developers who are
> looking to use a list, whilst ensuring that it is reasonably coherent. But
> without spending a huge amount of time trying to create a perfect list.
> Based on the discussion, I think that the way forward is to:
> * share some editorial guidance, that will help us draft the list and
> inform its development
> * set ourselves a target date for publishing a first version
> * work iteratively, aiming to:
>  * refine the list within the group, over the next few weeks
>  * then invite comment and feedback, within a clear time window, from a
> wider group (to be determined)
> * ensure that it is clear to everyone, in the group and beyond, how and
> when feedback can be provided, and what type of feedback we are looking for
> * continue to work within the Google spreadsheet for now, to collate
> feedback
> * review the list again in our next call, with feedback on the document in
> the meantime
> There is an early draft of an editorial guide at [2].
> Please feel free to add comments to the draft activity list spreadsheet.
> Cheers,
> L.
> [1]. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yWpVXGr91NiqWuCr7EBdVI2uhzxgN
> 3Qw-oIKNMuhTeQ/edit#gid=735540001
> [2]. https://docs.google.com/document/d/15-bSByBhoIdckmlh6Dz3J27xQv7OeTYR
> 0qv-OZh_Mls/edit#
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