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Re: Activity List Discussion Summary

From: Leigh Dodds <leigh.dodds@theodi.org>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:51:57 +0100
Message-ID: <CAJsy4=PaC+TO5bE0q_mkf9K1WvwtFXh=xGhbX3cqXNCOYUQHjw@mail.gmail.com>
To: public-openactive@w3.org
Cc: Jade Moulden <jade@emduk.org>, Kim Lillie <k.lillie@lrsport.org>, Richard Norris <richard.norris@theodi.org>
Morning,

It doesn't look like there's a good time to get everyone together in the
next week or so, so I'm going to look at rearranging this workshop for a
later date. In the meantime I'll catch up with those of you who responded
to the poll and have offered comments to collect some feedback. I'll also
look at doing some quick validation of the list to feed into our
discussions. We're also hoping to get 4Global involved in this work as
obviously they have a great deal of experience here.

btw, I've not had any comments on the editorial guidelines [1], so am
assuming everyone is happy with the outline. If not, please do comment on
the document or reply here.

Whatever our progress on developing the shared list, this shouldn't stop
publication of existing platform-specific activity lists using the current
data model. I know a few of you have been doing this already. In fact the
more these are shared the better, as they provide further examples for us
to draw from.

Cheers,

L.

[1]. https://docs.google.com/document/d/15-bSByBhoIdckmlh6Dz
3J27xQv7OeTYR0qv-OZh_Mls/edit#


On 26 May 2017 at 16:27, Leigh Dodds <leigh.dodds@theodi.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As a reminder, if you have feedback on the activity list or editorial
> guidelines, please can you leave a comment or suggested edit on the
> documents linked below?
>
> To help move things forward I suggested on our call this week that we
> should:
>
> * refine the editorial guidelines, so we have an agreed scope. So please
> do add your thoughts
>
> * look to validate the list against existing open data, to help us test
> how well it fits and possibly identify any gaps
>
> * arrange a face to face meeting to help us move forward with producing a
> more public draft. I think if we can could get a small group together we
> could iterate on this pretty quickly.
>
> If you're interested in attending a F2F workshop to discuss and revise the
> Activity List, can you please complete the following Doodle poll? We'll
> hold the meeting at the ODI offices in London:
>
> https://doodle.com/poll/udx8iiyd5cm7e9uv
>
> Cheers,
>
> L.
>
> On 12 May 2017 at 16:43, Leigh Dodds <leigh.dodds@theodi.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is the second of the summaries from our hangout this week. In the
>> second half of the call we reviewed the progress and plans around
>> developing our shared activity list.
>>
>> This call was our first chance to discuss the initial progress of
>> developing the list, lead by Kim, Becky and Jade. The ongoing, working
>> draft version is at [1].
>>
>> We discussed:
>>
>> * requirements for the list, e.g. its use in supporting searching and
>> browsing for opportunities, integrating data across platforms and in
>> reporting. There's a clear need to balance these requirements: the list
>> needs to support searching by end-users, but data integration is also an
>> important enabler for openactive as a whole
>>
>> * The top terms of the list. The key decision was to remove the top-level
>> split between Sports and Physical Activities, if these are retained they
>> will be handled as collections. This reduces the list to 2 levels, not 3
>>
>> * Whether to have a single or multiple levels in the hierarchy. I think
>> the consensus, based on our previous discussions is to have multiple
>> levels, but also note we need to include, e.g. in the primer, some notes
>> about how the list can be used, to support searching
>>
>> * Need for more detailed review of some terms, including their labelling,
>> descriptions, etc
>>
>> * Focusing on the terms and their metadata before working further on
>> collections
>>
>> * Using trademarks as an indicator for including branded programmes in
>> the list. It's one useful indicator of visibility to participants
>>
>> * That the list may need review by additional groups. Jade has reached
>> out to UK Active for input.
>>
>> * That the list should include unique identifiers to help with versioning
>>
>> * That the term labels will be formatted for display to users.
>>
>> The key debate was around the process for moving forward. There were some
>> different views about the best way forward, e.g:
>>
>> * just publish the list, after some further review by the group
>> * inviting further review and feedback from specific groups before
>> publishing more widely
>>
>> The balancing act here is fulfilling immediate needs of developers who
>> are looking to use a list, whilst ensuring that it is reasonably coherent.
>> But without spending a huge amount of time trying to create a perfect list.
>>
>> Based on the discussion, I think that the way forward is to:
>>
>> * share some editorial guidance, that will help us draft the list and
>> inform its development
>> * set ourselves a target date for publishing a first version
>> * work iteratively, aiming to:
>>  * refine the list within the group, over the next few weeks
>>  * then invite comment and feedback, within a clear time window, from a
>> wider group (to be determined)
>> * ensure that it is clear to everyone, in the group and beyond, how and
>> when feedback can be provided, and what type of feedback we are looking for
>> * continue to work within the Google spreadsheet for now, to collate
>> feedback
>> * review the list again in our next call, with feedback on the document
>> in the meantime
>>
>> There is an early draft of an editorial guide at [2].
>>
>> Please feel free to add comments to the draft activity list spreadsheet.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> L.
>>
>> [1]. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yWpVXGr91NiqWuCr7EBd
>> VI2uhzxgN3Qw-oIKNMuhTeQ/edit#gid=735540001
>> [2]. https://docs.google.com/document/d/15-bSByBhoIdckmlh6Dz
>> 3J27xQv7OeTYR0qv-OZh_Mls/edit#
>>
>> --
>> Leigh Dodds, Senior Consultant, theODI.org
>> @ldodds
>> The ODI, 65 Clifton Street, London EC2A 4JE
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Leigh Dodds, Senior Consultant, theODI.org
> @ldodds
> The ODI, 65 Clifton Street, London EC2A 4JE
>
>


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Leigh Dodds, Senior Consultant, theODI.org
@ldodds
The ODI, 65 Clifton Street, London EC2A 4JE
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