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Re: citations etc

From: Julia Bosque Gil <jbosque@fi.upm.es>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 15:22:02 +0200
Message-ID: <CA+B92Mv9XZwzr6tjbR215CP3x_erWBrLtE52W4aghdOoxi1R9A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Katrien Depuydt <Katrien.Depuydt@ivdnt.org>
Cc: Ilan Kernerman <ilan@kdictionaries.com>, Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>, public-ontolex <public-ontolex@w3.org>
Dear all,

I am available next Monday (11th) and the following week (18th).

Best,

Julia

El lun., 4 jun. 2018 a las 12:42, Katrien Depuydt (<
Katrien.Depuydt@ivdnt.org>) escribió:

> Hi all,
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> I am available next Monday, but the week after that as well.
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> Kind regards,
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> Katrien
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> *Van:* Ilan Kernerman [mailto:ilan@kdictionaries.com]
> *Verzonden:* maandag 4 juni 2018 12:40
> *Aan:* Philipp Cimiano; public-ontolex@w3.org
> *Onderwerp:* RE: citations etc
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> I will not be available next week. My apologies.
>
> Ilan
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> *From:* Philipp Cimiano [mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de
> <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2018 1:32 PM
> *To:* public-ontolex@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: citations etc
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> Dear Fahad,
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> if this is the case, then I propose we skip the teleconference today.
>
> It would be good to have you available to discuss your paper and the
> definitions of attestation.
>
> I propose then we postpone to next week. I will not be available, but I
> think it is more important that other players are available (Fahad, Ilan,
> Katrien, etc.)
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> Will John or Julia be available for chairing next week?
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> Kind regards,
>
> Philipp.
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> Am 04.06.18 um 12:23 schrieb Fahad Khan:
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> Hi Philipp,
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> I'm afraid I won't be able to attend today.
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> Cheers,
> Fahad
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> On 4 June 2018 at 12:16, Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>
> wrote:
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> Dear all,
>
>  thanks for this Ilan.
>
> @All. I had planned a telco for today as I will not be available for the
> next two weeks.
>
> And here is my proposed definition for an attestation:
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> Attestation: An attestation is a reference to a source that proves that
> the lexical entry has a certain linguistic property (e.g. a sense).
>
> I propose we talk at 13:00 today to touch base and see how we continue our
> discussion on attestation.
>
> Talk to you later,
>
> Philipp.
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> Am 02.06.18 um 12:46 schrieb Ilan Kernerman:
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> Dear all,
>
> Following our last call, here are some suggestions:
>
> ·         A *citation* consists of a quote from a corpus (text); it may
> either (i) include a reference to its origin (*bibl*), or (ii) not.
>
> o   An *attestation* is the reference to a source (*bibl*) without its
> actual *citation*.
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> § (in other words, *bibl* and *attestation* might be similar, but the
> latter is not preceded by a *citation*)
>
> ·         An *example of usage* (or *usage example*) is human-crafted,
> whether (i) corpus-inspired/derived, or (ii) not.
>
> o   The *example* can consist of either a full sentence or a short phrase
> (and could also be a *citation*)
>
> § (there are different types of examples – mainly of general patterns,
> for reception/decoding purposes, active for production/encoding – but that
> is probably beyond the scope here)
>
> This might seem like over-simplifying or distorting matters, but I hope it
> is useful for more accurate mapping/tagging.
>
> I think this does not contradict the concerns raised in Fahad’s article J:
>
> “Lemon, unlike TEI-DICT, however focuses on capturing the conceptual
> content of a lexicon, that is, it takes a primarily lexical view of lexical
> resources… Hence there is no conflict here between the demands of fidelity
> to the text in its lexical view and the text in its editorial and
> typographical view as there is in TEI; lemon simply prioritises the former.
> ”
>
> “…a proper encoding of citations attesting to lexical properties must
> take into consideration at least two different kinds of conceptual entity:
> citations and attestations”
>
> Best,
>
> Ilan
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Julia Bosque Gil
PhD Student
Ontology Engineering Group <http://www.oeg-upm.net/>
Departamento de Inteligencia Artificial
Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
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