Re: Ontolex as an ISO international standard

> Am 02.11.2016 um 21:00 schrieb Thierry Declerck <declerck@dfki.de>:
> 
> On 02.11.2016 20:25, Christian Chiarcos wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>>> Hi Philipp, Paul, I fully support this move.
>> 
>> Standardizing Ontoles is a logical and necessary next step, and most
>> people would probably welcome it. The question is whether ISO is ideal for
>> the purpose.
>> 
>>> BTW, is ISO going to take the spec as it is, and propose a standard, or it will only be the starting point of the notoriously lengthy and tiring work of an ISO committee?
> Dear Christian, Aldo, all,
> 
> Myself I have been rather against this step, but feeling unsure about it.
> At least I could contribute from Austria.
> One aspect was also that DIN (the German ISO Branch) wanted to have money from participating organizations (and at the end selling the standards).... So that I stepped out from DIN.

Same here.

> I would prefer to continue the W3C path, but if not possible, then why not getting the ISO stamp.
> There are ways to make sure that some ISO standards are not closed, using the informative parts vs the normative part.
> In the informative part one could for example serialize the model (for exemplifying it) . And well not a big deal  then to "reverse" a ttl or RDF/XML back to the ontology.

If the aim to publish an ontology, FYI, there is a related W3C workshop coming up:

https://www.w3.org/2016/11/sdsvoc/

- Felix

> One thing I know is that  a new ISO item for LMF is planned ( to be serialized it in TEI-XML, which I think  is a non-sense, since TEI is hierarchical and purely semasiological. And LMF and Lemon support both semasiological and onomasiologcal approaches to the lexicon).
> So: going for ISO-Lemon/ontolex might lead to interesting debates within the corresponding ISO committee :-)
>> 
>> Well, we (or, at least, *someone*) probably cannot avoid the latter, do
>> we? In any case, the ISO standardization suffers from insufficient
>> transparency, also with respect to sharing and commenting drafts. I
>> remember TC37/SC4 drafts should not have been disseminated at some point,
>> and some server had to be switched off to prevent people from accessing
>> them. If we can make sure (!) that the ISO standardization process does
>> not hamper community involvement (at least at an informal level), I am
>> inclined to support it. Even though it means that the development process
>> will be partially taken from the hands of the current (open) community
>> (that's also what ISO means).
>> 
>> Does anyone has personal experience with the double ISO-W3C
>> standardization processes?
> No, but I found this: http://www.iso.org/iso/news.htm?refid=Ref1670 (no time to read it right now)
> Cheers
> 
> Thierry
>> 
>> Best,
>> Christian
> 
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