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Re: Minutes teleconference last Friday

From: Gil Francopoulo <gil.francopoulo@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 19:00:13 +0200
Message-ID: <5553831D.6060304@wanadoo.fr>
To: public-ontolex@w3.org
Dear Elena and Philipp,

My two cents: I suggest that the definitions should follow a common 
genus-differentia pattern like this: X is an Y that Z

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genus%E2%80%93differentia_definition

Bonne journée,
Gil


Le 13/05/2015 17:43, Elena Montiel Ponsoda a écrit :
> Dear Philipp,
>
> Some comments (to format, structure…), typos, and reflections to the 
> Core Module part:
>
> 1.In our (humble) opinion, we should check that all definitions follow 
> the same format, don’t you think so? See for example, ObjectProperty: 
> Usage and ObjectProperty Domain. The former starts with “The object 
> property…” and the latter “Provides…”.
>
> 2.The other of items (Domain, Range, Characteristics…) is not 
> consistent in all classes, i.e. it does not keep parallelism. For 
> instance, in the Object properties Sense and Reference, the order is 
> not the same.
>
> 3.In the Object Property Sense there is a typo in the word 
> Characteristics.
>
> 4.In the class LexicalSense there is a typo in “it might nottttttttt 
> be directly”.
>
> 5.In the Usage object property the preposition “of” is missing… “in 
> the use oofff”.
>
> 6.Also, the sentence just before example 12 has some mistakes: “The 
> details of conditions are mostly left to application IN (preposition 
> missing!) specific vocabularies, but they could be given as natural 
> _langauge_ descriptions, e.g.,”.
>
> 7.Shouldn’t we specify a Range for the Usage object property?
>
> 8.What is the difference between rdfs:Literal and rdf:StringLang?
>
> 9.In example 15, we would say that a more appropriate lexicalization 
> of the spouse relation in Spanish would be “casarse” or even “casarse 
> con”, since it is a reflexive use of the verb.
>
> 10.In the ObjectProperty: Evokes, you refer to the propertyChain sense 
> or isLexicalizedSense of, what is the propertyChain doing?
>
> 11.In example 18, is there a reason for indistinctly using 
> “ontolex:isConceptOf dbpedia:Tuberculosis ;” and “ontolex:isConceptOf 
> <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Consumption_(Economics)> ;”.
>
> We are working on the SynSem module. Comments to come next week. :)
> Shönen Himmelfahrt Tag!
> Best,
> Lupe and Elena
>
>
> El 11/05/2015 a las 9:04, Philipp Cimiano escribió:
>> Dear all,
>>
>>  I summarize the outcomes and decisions made during the telco last 
>> Friday:
>>
>> 1) Domain of ontolex:language
>>
>> We decided to unconstrain the domain of ontolex:language and instead 
>> add a = 1 ontolex:language axiom to the ontolex:Lexicon, 
>> ontolex:LexicalEntry and lime:LexicalizationSet classes. The doman of 
>> ontolex:language would thus be OWL:thing
>>
>> 2) Form should have minimum one writtenRep with range rdf:langString
>>
>> 3) The range of ontolex:language should be rdfs:Literal
>>
>> 4) We should drop the constraint on there being just one written 
>> representation per language tag as this is questionable and further 
>> it can not be axiomtaized in OWL anyway.
>>
>> 5) Example 10 is infelicitous as there should be two lexical entries 
>> for "bank" as in the case of geographic vs. financial meaning this is 
>> a case of homonymy. So in this case there should be two lexical 
>> entries. I will correct the example.
>>
>> 6)  Example 9: for the sake of this example I will change the 
>> denotation to <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Marriage>
>>
>> 7) We decided to keep dct:subject as property to assign a topic to a 
>> sense as this is the corresponding property from Dublin Core for this:
>>
>> 8) We decided to change the definition of affix to:
>>
>> "The class affix represents is a morpheme (suffix, prefix, infix, 
>> circumfix, etc.) that is attached to a word stem to form a new word."
>>
>> 9) We decided to change the definition of lexical entry to:
>>
>> "Lexical Entry is a unit of analysis of lexicon, that consist of a 
>> set of forms that are grammatically related and a set of base 
>> meanings that are associated with all of these forms. Thus, a lexical 
>> entry is a word, multiword expression or affix with a single 
>> part-of-speech, morphological pattern, etymology and set of senses."
>>
>> 10) We agreed to have domain and ranges for all properties, so I will 
>> add also owl:Thing to the range of "reference" for the sake of 
>> completeness (we discussed this differently during the telco, but to 
>> ensure consistency I propose we indeed explicitly indicate the range 
>> here, same for isSenseOf).
>>
>> 11) We decided to rename the property "condition" to "usage" and add 
>> it to the core module.
>>
>> 12) We briefly repeated the rationale for declaring a Lexicon as a 
>> dataset.
>>
>> TODOs:
>>
>> Elena/Lupe: to send me the updated definition of "Lexical Sense"
>> John: fix the namespaces
>>
>> That's it for now. Thanks to all those who attended the telco.
>>
>> I will implement these changes today.
>>
>> The next telco will be on the 22nd of Mai, 16:00 CET. We will discuss 
>> the synsem module then.
>>
>> I will send an email on this soon.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Philipp.
>>
>
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