Re: telco today, 15:00 (CET)

OK, I will quickly give some answers:

1. Seems unnecessary... is it worth complicating the model with new
properties to handle how things are merely 'perceived'
2. We should probably have a generic superproperty of
variationSource/Target for symmetric relationships.
3. We already have ontolex:example on the sense... we could reuse this
property.
4. +1

Regards,
John

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Jorge Gracia <jgracia@fi.upm.es> wrote:

> Hi Phlipp, all
>
> For the vartrans module discussion I have a few suggestions that I'll
> elaborate more during the telco:
>
> 1. New properties "translationSource" and "translationTarget" as
> subproperties of "variationSource/Target". In general translations are not
> perceived as "variations" even if they are IMHO
> 2. Add a property "translationSense" (or something similar) as
> superproperty of "translationSource/Target".  The idea is to have a
> property that does not account for the directionality (i.e., one does not
> know whether an object of "translationSense" is target or source in the
> translation relation). This is very convenient for simplifying querying and
> for navigation purposes. Maybe that can be done at the level of "variation"
> instead
> 3. Consider to add "examples" to the translations, as there are in many
> dictionaries. For instance "banco"@es -> "bench"@en E.g.: "We both sat on
> the piano bench while I had my lesson". How to capture this?
> 4. Consider to have a "TranslationSet" class to group many translations
> (or "VariationSet" maybe). This has proved to be a useful feature of the
> lemon translation module [1]
>
> Regards,
> Jorge
>
> [1] http://purl.org/net/translation
>
>
>
>
> 2014-10-10 10:06 GMT+02:00 Philipp Cimiano <
> cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>:
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>> Dear all,
>>
>>      please find access details for the telco today here:
>> https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Teleconference,_2014.10.10,_15-16_pm_CET
>>
>> The agenda is the following:
>>
>> 1) Discussion of vartrans module => definitions provided by Lupe and
>> Elena
>>
>> 2) Discussion of modelling of Arabic lexica by Thierry (see attached
>> documents)
>>
>> Talk to you later,
>>
>> Philipp.
>>
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