R: varstrans.owl

Hi Philipp,

I re-vote for yes :-)

> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Philipp Cimiano [mailto:cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de]
> Inviato: giovedì 31 luglio 2014 22:11
> A: public-ontolex@w3.org; public-ontolex@w3.org
> Oggetto: varstrans.owl
> 
> Dear all,
> 
>   and the last email for today. I would like to propose a terminological
change
> for the vartrans module.
> 
> We had a lot of discussion about the notion of translation a few months
ago,
> showing that the notion of translation is indeed quite ambiguous,
> between:
> 
> 1) the process of translation a source string into a target string
> 2) the result of this process
> 3) the relation between two "equivalent" senses in to different languages
> 
> I would like to propose a deeper change to the vartrans module, that is
the
> one of using "translation" only for the result of translating some source
string
> into a target string as an opaque relationin some context, under some
> conditions etc.
> 
> If we want to be technically precise and say that there is a relation of
cross-
> lingual translational equivalence between two senses, then we should use a
> more technical relation such as "CrossLingualEquivalentSense".
> 
> Many people use "translation" as an opaque relation denoting the result of
> translating one string into another and are puzzled by the fact.
> 
> If we want to be technically precise and say that translational
equivalence is a
> relation between senses and not lexical entries, then we should also use a
> more technical term such as "CrossLingualEquivalentSense" and leave the
> more vague "translation"
> term for the relation between two lexical entries that can be translated
into
> reach other in *some* context.
> 
> Sorry for opening this discussion again, but I believe it is for the
robustness
> and usability of the model to rethink this at least once more. It is now
the
> right moment given that I am aiming to finalize the vartrans module in the
> near time.
> 
> Opinions?
> 
> Philipp.
> 
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