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Re: ontolex telco tomorrow 15:00 CET

From: Gil FRANCOPOULO <gil.francopoulo@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:37:59 +0200 (CEST)
To: Guido Vetere <gvetere@it.ibm.com>, "public-ontolex@w3.org" <public-ontolex@w3.org>
Cc: Philipp Cimiano <cimiano@cit-ec.uni-bielefeld.de>, Guadalupe Aguado de Cea <guadalupe.aguado@upm.es>, johnmccrae@gmail.com
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Dear all,

 

I agree with Guido.

 

The new model is broader, defined with different people, under a different administrative umbrella, so this is different.

 

Using the name "lemon" is confusing.

 

In the future, if somebody says "lemon", we need to ask: what "lemon" are you talking about ? The old one or the new one.

 

Using the term "ontolex", means a fresh and clean start, for new adventures...

 

Best,

Gil Francopoulo






> Message du 13/09/13 14:45
> De : "Guido Vetere" 
> A : "public-ontolex@w3.org" 
> Copie à : "Philipp Cimiano" , "Guadalupe Aguado de Cea" , johnmccrae@gmail.com
> Objet : Re: ontolex telco tomorrow 15:00 CET
> 
> Dear all, 
> 
> although, as Shakespeare, said "a rose by any other name would smell as sweet", I think that names matter. I think that keeping 'lemon' (or a variant) would suggest that the work we are doing is basically a follow-on of the Lemon initiative, which, at the time the group has been established, was not the case, at least in my understanding. Hence, I think that keeping the original 'ontolex' name is a better option. 
> 
> I'm unable to attend the call this evening, sorry about that. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Guido Vetere
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> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I apologise I will also not be able to attend as I am travelling today. I wanted to make a quick couple of points about the naming of the model.
> 
> Firstly, the model is not drastically new in fact in terms of URIs 15 of the properties are exactly the same as they are in the original lemon core where as only 9 are new introductions, and 4 are not carried over from the ontolex core (although these should be included in modules).
> 
> Also, I am here at RANLP and lemon has been mentioned in several talks including one of the keynotes, at tutorials and many times in the NLP&LOD workshop. Many people who I talked to about the naming of the model seemed not keen accept a change of name.
> 
> For these two reasons I feel that we really should to keep lemon in the name but would be happy with Lemon2 or W3C-Lemon as a name
> 
> Regards,
> John 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Guadalupe Aguado de Cea  wrote: 
> Dear all,
> 
> I won't be able to join the telco as I have a meeting in another town.
> As for the name of the model, the last 2 suggestions proposed by Phillipp and Aldo: lemon2, and lemon-W3C could be Ok, though I'm more inclined to the first one, lemon2. Exactly for the reasons given by Philipp.
> 
> I know that Elena & Jorge will attend the telco, so they'll tell me about the commitments and the modules..
> Best regards
> 
> Lupe
> 
> El 12/09/2013 14:38, Philipp Cimiano escribió: 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
>    this is a gentle reminder that we will have our regular ontolex telco tomorrow Friday at the regular time.
> 
> See access details here: http://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Teleconference,_2013.13.09,_15-16_pm_CET
> 
> The agenda from my side is as follows:
> 
> 1) Modules: decide which modules need to be developed and which use cases will drive them, fix responsibles for module development
> 2) Name of the model: discuss different points of view
> 3) Linking: what to link to
> 
> I look forward to talking to you all on Friday.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Philipp.
> 
> 
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