Re: Call for vote on structure - Re: Please assign yourself on GH

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Clint Hill <clint.hill@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm familiar with r.js and how it concats modules. I think my point is
> more about the functionality it induces.
>
> We ought to have a compiled output that does not have any dependency on a
> loader. Wrapping all the code in "define" statements is cruft for AMD and
> not necessary to our adopters. More over it creates an async nature to
> WebIDL that I think is functionally detrimental. The purpose of WebIDL is
> to be "native"-like and when you make it async you step in the opposite
> direction.
>
> I'm also wanting a nicely organized structure to our code and dev cycle -
> I believe we can do it without AMD.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
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> On 1/9/13 2:34 PM, "Marcos Caceres" <w3c@marcosc.com> wrote:
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> >
> >On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Clint Hill wrote:
> >
> >> Marcos - Happy to vote - but want to make an observation/point before we
> >> do:
> >>
> >> RequireJS forces an async nature to the entire lib. This causes a blip
> >>in
> >> it's usability by prollyfills using it in a compiled state and even by
> >>us
> >> when we work with it in a decomposed state.
> >
> >Remember that the final code will just be a single file. The only
> >advantage in using AMD right now is that it makes development a bit
> >easier (IMO).
> >
> >> I think there is a 1.5 choice:
> >>
> >> I want to create a build system that composes the web-idl.js as a whole
> >> for testing/running while allowing me to code in separated source files.
> >
> >That fine, we just run it through r.js. I'm doing that for the Web MIDI
> >Prollyfill already and it works a treat:
> >
> >See:
> >https://github.com/marcoscaceres/adlib.js
> >
> >> (I would point to the work that the Ember.js team have been doing in
> >>this
> >> aspect as guidance.They've done really smart things with mini-spade,
> >> sourceMap etc.)
> >
> >Sounds interesting, if you have a pointer that would be great.
> >
> >--
> >Marcos Caceres
> >
> >
> >
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Honestly - I think this is a red herring right now... Let's stick with what
we have an iterate on it :)  It will definitely not be hard to add or
remove 7-10 lines of boilerplate in a couple dozen files later on.



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Brian Kardell :: @briankardell :: hitchjs.com