- From: Pierre-Antoine Champin <pierre-antoine@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 14:05:27 +0200
- To: Jos De Roo <josderoo@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-n3-dev@w3.org, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- Message-ID: <ad712877-d18d-f378-915e-4d2c3afc8ca9@w3.org>
oh... right, '=' is a shortcut for owl:sameAs! I totally forgot about that.
From Henry's email, I thought that [= ID ... ] was a special kind of
brackets, that allowed you to nest a description, but having ID as the
subject of this description, rather than a fresh blank node.
This is a nice feature of JSON-LD (see example below) which I wish was
available in the Turtle family of syntaxes.
{
"@context": "https://schema.org/,
"@id": "#pa",
"@type": "Person",
"affiliation": {
"@id": "#w3",
"@type": "Organization",
"founder": {
"@id": "#timbl",
"@type": "Person
}
}
}
pa
On 16/06/2022 23:13, Jos De Roo wrote:
> Well, too much implicit assumptions for such a challenging predicate
> as owl:sameAs.
> We rather use an explicit rule like
> |@prefix owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#>. @prefix log:
> <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/log#>. @prefix e:
> <http://eulersharp.sourceforge.net/2003/03swap/log-rules#>. { ?S ?P
> ?O. ?O e:label ?L. ?O = ?A. ?O ?B ?C. ?B log:notEqualTo owl:sameAs. }
> => { ?S ?P ?A. ?A ?B ?C. }.|
> For an example see
> https://github.com/josd/eye/issues/42#issuecomment-1158126514
>
> -- https://josd.github.io
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 9:19 PM Pierre-Antoine Champin
> <pierre-antoine@w3.org> wrote:
>
> This is indeed a nice feature (that I wish Turtle had, by the way...).
>
> Any reason why it is not supported by EYE?
>
> On 16 June 2022 20:23:11 CEST, Henry Story
> <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
>
> Someone asked me to add their WebID to my profile which I wrote in N3 years ago.
> But I could no longer compile it to other formats like rdfxml and Ntriples with
> cwm as that was written for Python 2 and Python 3 is the default on MacBook Pro M1s.
> (See my bug report [1] )
>
> I tried eye but came accross this problem I described in
> https://github.com/josd/eye/issues/42
>
> In short I used the feature of cwm to use
>
> :a :rel [ = ns:j;
> foaf:name ”Jos” ] .
>
> as a short-cut for
>
> :a :rel ns:j .
> ns:j foaf:name ”Jos” .
>
> This makes it nicer to write long foaf files by hand like
>
> :me foaf:knows [ = <https://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/card#i>;
> a foaf:Person;
> foaf:name "Tim Berners Lee";
> ],
> [ = <https://my-profile.eu/people/jwinandy/card#me>;
> a foaf:Person;
> foaf:name "Jonathan Winandy";
> ],
> [ = <https://my-profile.eu/people/tim/card#me>;
> a foaf:Person;
> foaf:name "Tim Boudreau" ],
> [ = <http://www.turnguard.com/turnguard>;
> a foaf:Person;
> foaf:name "jakobitsch jürgen";
> ] …
>
> Because it avoids me having to link to a URL and not be able
> to see who that refers to without having to search through the whole
> file for additional metadata.
>
> I could not find that feature described in the current n3 spec
> https://w3c.github.io/N3/spec/
>
> But I may just not have read it correctly.
> In any case I could not get the expected result with eye, but there
> I may also not be using it correctly.
>
>
> Henry Story
>
> [1]https://github.com/linkeddata/swap/issues/3
>
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>
>
> -- Sent from /e/ Mail.
>
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