- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:23:01 +0100
- To: public-mwts@w3.org
Hi, The minutes of our call today are available at: http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html linked from http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/ and copied as text below. Dom Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group teleconf 10 Feb 2009 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Feb/0006.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-irc Attendees Present dom, Wilhelm, Kai, Carmelo, dmitri Regrets Chair Wilhelm Scribe dom Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Widgets testing 2. [6]Device independent testing guidelines 3. [7]Memory Test 4. [8]Web Compatibility Test 5. [9]Blog 6. [10]Agreement on test suites with OMA 7. [11]Next meetings * [12]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ Widgets testing <scribe> ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] [13] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02 <dom_scribe> [14]Kai's update on widget testing [14] http://www.w3.org/mid/b24851260902090620j410df8fcj3e9ac04ab046f518@mail.gmail.com Kai: I've asked a question to Robert on the test harness to see if my pass/fail test cases can be pushed up to the test harness Wilhelm: I'll follow up with Robert to make sure he gets back to you on this Kai: is WTF a test harness? Wilhelm: it's primarily a way to organize the tests Dom: are the changes uploaded to the CVS server? Kai: no, they are only on my git repository at this time Device independent testing guidelines <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to review new version of guidelines [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE] [15] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06 <dom_scribe> [16]Carmelo's comments [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Feb/0008.html <scribe> ACTION: Kai to review new version of guidelines [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE] [17] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action07 <dom_scribe> [18]Kai's comments [18] http://www.w3.org/mid/b24851260902030853m1e53ce9duc7483bcb8774c418@mail.gmail.com Kai: I had a few comments on the wording, and some additional ideas <scribe> ACTION: Dom to reply to Kai's comments on DITG [recorded in [19]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action04] <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to provide text for DITG based on his comments [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [DONE] [20] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action05 <dom_scribe> [21]Wilhelm's success report [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Feb/0009.html Wilhelm: what are the next steps on that document? Dom: Once I have replied to Kai's comments and we come to agreement, we can publish it as a WG note, and announce it to the Chairs Memory Test <scribe> ACTION: Dom to check if we can host the memory test on a W3C server [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING] [22] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09 Dom: no progress on this, sorry <scribe> ACTION: Kai to look further into memory test usability [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action08] [DONE] [23] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action08 <dom_scribe> [24]Kai's latest take on usability of memory test [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Feb/0007.html Wilhelm: test looks OK to me - it worked well on my devices Kai: it works well on devices that support it ... but on others, you may have to edit the URL Wilhelm: maybe you should provide more starting values? <scribe> ACTION: Kai to add more starting points to memory test [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action08] <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to run the memory test on his devices [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE] [26] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07 Wilhelm: my primary device survived the highest threshold; would like to test it with higher limits ... hopefully we can do that once the test is on a W3C server <scribe> ACTION: Kai to improve performance of memory test [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action10] <scribe> ACTION: Dom to run the memory test on his mobile devices [recorded in [28]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action11] Web Compatibility Test <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look into replacement for inputmode test [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [DONE] [29] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05 Wilhelm: I'm now proposing that we import a test from one of the JavaScript frameworks ... they are widely deployed, and any browser that wants to support the real web need to support that ... running one test from one of these would certainly be quite relevant Dom: sounds like a good idea; mildly concerned we might be seen as blessing which ever framework we choose Wilhelm: jquery has the best test suite as far as I can tell Kai: I think it's a good idea Wilhelm: it's a bit heavy, but goes down to 18K once gzipped <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to make a concrete proposal for jquery test in wctmb [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action13] CTION: Kai to modify the canvas test to not rely on the todata: url scheme [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14] [DONE] [31] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14 <scribe> ACTION: Kai to modify the canvas test to not rely on the todata: url scheme [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14] [DONE] [32] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14 <dom_scribe> [33]Kai's proposed fix to canvas [33] http://static.webvm.net/canvas/mobile-test/test.html <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to check the new canvas test in WCTMB [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action15] <dom_scribe> [35]Updated test with new canvas test [35] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/mobile-test/ Wilhelm: have you managed to make it fail? Kai: it fails when disabling javascript? Dom: is there a browser that we know doesn't work with canvas? Kai: IE <scribe> ACTION: Kai to check that IE fails canvas test [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action16] Blog <scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review Kai's new blog entry [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action12] [DONE] [37] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action12 Wilhelm: sent comments to Kai Kai: I'll reply and post the blog <scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to draft a blog post on the guidelines document [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action18] [PENDING] [38] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action18 Carmelo: I'll post that this afternoon to the list Agreement on test suites with OMA <scribe> ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites [recorded in [39]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16] [PENDING] [39] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16 <scribe> ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15] [PENDING] [40] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15 Next meetings Dom: away on 17th and 24th <hendry> canvas test fails in MSIE6 on a HTC Tytyn II btw Wilhelm: we should still hold the teleconf ... I'll take care of sending the agendas Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Dom to reply to Kai's comments on DITG [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action04] [NEW] ACTION: Dom to run the memory test on his mobile devices [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action11] [NEW] ACTION: Kai to add more starting points to memory test [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action08] [NEW] ACTION: Kai to improve performance of memory test [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action10] [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to check the new canvas test in WCTMB [recorded in [45]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action15] [NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to make a concrete proposal for jquery test in wctmb [recorded in [46]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action13] [PENDING] ACTION: Carmelo to draft a blog post on the guidelines document [recorded in [47]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action18] [PENDING] ACTION: Dom to check if we can host the memory test on a W3C server [recorded in [48]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report [recorded in [49]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15] [PENDING] ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF [recorded in [50]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites [recorded in [51]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16] [47] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action18 [48] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09 [49] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15 [50] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02 [51] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16 [DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to review new version of guidelines [recorded in [52]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE] ACTION: Kai to look further into memory test usability [recorded in [53]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action08] [DONE] ACTION: Kai to check that IE fails canvas test [recorded in [54]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action16] [DONE] ACTION: Kai to modify the canvas test to not rely on the todata: url scheme [recorded in [55]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14] [DONE] ACTION: Kai to review new version of guidelines [recorded in [56]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to look into replacement for inputmode test [recorded in [57]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to provide text for DITG based on his comments [recorded in [58]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to review Kai's new blog entry [recorded in [59]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action12] [DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to run the memory test on his devices [recorded in [60]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [52] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06 [53] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action08 [55] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14 [56] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action07 [57] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05 [58] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action05 [59] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action12 [60] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07
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