- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:23:01 +0100
- To: public-mwts@w3.org
Hi,
The minutes of our call today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html
linked from
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below.
Dom
Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group teleconf
10 Feb 2009
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Feb/0006.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-irc
Attendees
Present
dom, Wilhelm, Kai, Carmelo, dmitri
Regrets
Chair
Wilhelm
Scribe
dom
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Widgets testing
2. [6]Device independent testing guidelines
3. [7]Memory Test
4. [8]Web Compatibility Test
5. [9]Blog
6. [10]Agreement on test suites with OMA
7. [11]Next meetings
* [12]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
Widgets testing
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF [recorded
in [13]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING]
[13] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02
<dom_scribe> [14]Kai's update on widget testing
[14] http://www.w3.org/mid/b24851260902090620j410df8fcj3e9ac04ab046f518@mail.gmail.com
Kai: I've asked a question to Robert on the test harness to see if
my pass/fail test cases can be pushed up to the test harness
Wilhelm: I'll follow up with Robert to make sure he gets back to you
on this
Kai: is WTF a test harness?
Wilhelm: it's primarily a way to organize the tests
Dom: are the changes uploaded to the CVS server?
Kai: no, they are only on my git repository at this time
Device independent testing guidelines
<scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to review new version of guidelines
[recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]
[15] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06
<dom_scribe> [16]Carmelo's comments
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Feb/0008.html
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to review new version of guidelines [recorded
in [17]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action07
<dom_scribe> [18]Kai's comments
[18] http://www.w3.org/mid/b24851260902030853m1e53ce9duc7483bcb8774c418@mail.gmail.com
Kai: I had a few comments on the wording, and some additional ideas
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to reply to Kai's comments on DITG [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to provide text for DITG based on his
comments [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [DONE]
[20] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action05
<dom_scribe> [21]Wilhelm's success report
[21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Feb/0009.html
Wilhelm: what are the next steps on that document?
Dom: Once I have replied to Kai's comments and we come to agreement,
we can publish it as a WG note, and announce it to the Chairs
Memory Test
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to check if we can host the memory test on a
W3C server [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING]
[22] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09
Dom: no progress on this, sorry
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to look further into memory test usability
[recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action08
<dom_scribe> [24]Kai's latest take on usability of memory test
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2009Feb/0007.html
Wilhelm: test looks OK to me - it worked well on my devices
Kai: it works well on devices that support it
... but on others, you may have to edit the URL
Wilhelm: maybe you should provide more starting values?
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to add more starting points to memory test
[recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to run the memory test on his devices
[recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07
Wilhelm: my primary device survived the highest threshold; would
like to test it with higher limits
... hopefully we can do that once the test is on a W3C server
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to improve performance of memory test [recorded
in [27]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to run the memory test on his mobile devices
[recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
Web Compatibility Test
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to look into replacement for inputmode test
[recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [DONE]
[29] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05
Wilhelm: I'm now proposing that we import a test from one of the
JavaScript frameworks
... they are widely deployed, and any browser that wants to support
the real web need to support that
... running one test from one of these would certainly be quite
relevant
Dom: sounds like a good idea; mildly concerned we might be seen as
blessing which ever framework we choose
Wilhelm: jquery has the best test suite as far as I can tell
Kai: I think it's a good idea
Wilhelm: it's a bit heavy, but goes down to 18K once gzipped
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to make a concrete proposal for jquery test
in wctmb [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
CTION: Kai to modify the canvas test to not rely on the todata: url
scheme [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14] [DONE]
[31] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to modify the canvas test to not rely on the
todata: url scheme [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14] [DONE]
[32] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14
<dom_scribe> [33]Kai's proposed fix to canvas
[33] http://static.webvm.net/canvas/mobile-test/test.html
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to check the new canvas test in WCTMB
[recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
<dom_scribe> [35]Updated test with new canvas test
[35] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/mobile-test/
Wilhelm: have you managed to make it fail?
Kai: it fails when disabling javascript?
Dom: is there a browser that we know doesn't work with canvas?
Kai: IE
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to check that IE fails canvas test [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
Blog
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to review Kai's new blog entry [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action12] [DONE]
[37] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action12
Wilhelm: sent comments to Kai
Kai: I'll reply and post the blog
<scribe> ACTION: Carmelo to draft a blog post on the guidelines
document [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action18]
[PENDING]
[38] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action18
Carmelo: I'll post that this afternoon to the list
Agreement on test suites with OMA
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites
[recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
[PENDING]
[39] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report
[recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING]
[40] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15
Next meetings
Dom: away on 17th and 24th
<hendry> canvas test fails in MSIE6 on a HTC Tytyn II btw
Wilhelm: we should still hold the teleconf
... I'll take care of sending the agendas
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to reply to Kai's comments on DITG [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to run the memory test on his mobile devices
[recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action11]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to add more starting points to memory test
[recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to improve performance of memory test [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action10]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to check the new canvas test in WCTMB
[recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to make a concrete proposal for jquery test in
wctmb [recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
[PENDING] ACTION: Carmelo to draft a blog post on the guidelines
document [recorded in
[47]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action18]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to check if we can host the memory test on a
W3C server [recorded in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to look back at OMA situation and report
[recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Kai to continue integrating his tests WTF
[recorded in
[50]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Wilhem to send Opera's feedback on OMA test suites
[recorded in
[51]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
[47] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action18
[48] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09
[49] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action15
[50] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-mwts-minutes.html#action02
[51] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/18-mwts-minutes.html#action16
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to review new version of guidelines [recorded
in [52]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to look further into memory test usability
[recorded in
[53]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to check that IE fails canvas test [recorded in
[54]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/10-mwts-minutes.html#action16]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to modify the canvas test to not rely on the
todata: url scheme [recorded in
[55]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to review new version of guidelines [recorded in
[56]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to look into replacement for inputmode test
[recorded in
[57]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to provide text for DITG based on his
comments [recorded in
[58]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to review Kai's new blog entry [recorded in
[59]http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
[DONE] ACTION: Wilhelm to run the memory test on his devices
[recorded in
[60]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[52] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06
[53] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action08
[55] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action14
[56] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/27-mwts-minutes.html#action07
[57] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05
[58] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action05
[59] http://www.w3.org/2009/02/03-mwts-minutes.html#action12
[60] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07
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