- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:51:34 +0200
- To: public-mwts <public-mwts@w3.org>
Hi,
The minutes of our teleconf today are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html
and copied as text below.
Dom
MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf
01 Jul 2008
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Jun/0033.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-irc
Attendees
Present
Wilhelm, dom, Kai, Dmitri
Regrets
Chair
Dom
Scribe
dom
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Web Compatibility Test
2. [6]Mobile Browser Concurrency Test
3. [7]next meeting
* [8]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
Web Compatibility Test
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to review the DOM Level 2 Style sheet test case
proposed by wilhelm [recorded in
[9]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]
[9] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-mwts-minutes.html#action06
Dom: looks technically good, but not sure it is specific to mobile
enough to deserve being included
Wilhelm: it is not mobile specific, indeed; a generic test for style
sheets DOM
... but they are pretty useful for various web applications
Dom: but is there a strong need for using dom style sheets support
from the community?
Wilhelm: I don't have a strong opinion for this particular feature -
but think we should test for DOM Level 2 support
Dom: ok, let's go with that one for the next release
Kai: I'm struggling to see the use cases for DOM style sheets -
which web apps want to use it or do use it?
... manipulating style from scripts seems like breaking the
separation between presentation/logic
Wilhelm: make sense; probably should test for something else then...
Any suggestion?
Kai: I'm interested in events in general
Dom: what about Mutation events? they are part of DOM Level 3
events, (not a rec, but quite stable)
... they seem to be quite useful
Kai: yeah, that's what I had in mind
Wilhelm: sounds good
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to propose a test case around DOM mutation
events [recorded in
[10]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to propose an updated AJAX test with onload (or
other event) added [recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
[11] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-mwts-minutes.html#action07
Kai: I added a window.onload() call to xhtmlhttprequest.js
... a one-line change
[12]http://static.webvm.net/wct/xmlhttprequest.js
[12] http://static.webvm.net/wct/xmlhttprequest.js
Kai: is window.onload standard?
Dom: I think you're supposed to put the onload event on the body
element
e.g. body = document.getElementByTagName("body")[$1\47]
<wilhelm> <body onload='foo()'>
body.onload("foo")
<hendry>
[13]http://git.webvm.net/?p=wct;a=commitdiff;h=ffceaad60e690600b2f56
fd43755fe7e77da38ed
[13] http://git.webvm.net/?p=wct;a=commitdiff;h=ffceaad60e690600b2f56fd43755fe7e77da38ed
<hendry> <body onload="callXMLFile()">
<hendry> window != body
<scribe> ACTION: Kai to update the onload event in
xhtmlhttprequest.js [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[15]http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-Window-20060407/
[15] http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-Window-20060407/
<hendry> <body onload="callXMLFile()"> is very common (i see it all
the time)
Dom: you also have a proposed update to the cookies test
Kai: mostly a js-lint clean up of the test
<hendry>
[16]http://git.webvm.net/?p=wct;a=commitdiff;h=1deec9ed09888d8585111
30b42e0ab623a665867
[16] http://git.webvm.net/?p=wct;a=commitdiff;h=1deec9ed09888d858511130b42e0ab623a665867
Wilhelm: plus the unicode thing, right?
Kai: looking at the cookies RFC, the acceptable documentations are
quite interesting
... wondering whether we should target these
... maybe that's going too far
... I think cookies support is one of the things were bad browsers
can react pretty badly
dom: sounds like a good idea in general, but maybe not in the WCTMB?
... I would support building a set of test cases around cookies
after we're done with WCTMB
... Wilhelm, what do you think about unicode based cookies?
Wilhelm: not sure
Kai: your original test used "escape" - I think it is deprecated
[17]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/mobile-test/cookie.js?r
ev=1.2&content-type=text/plain
[17] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2008/mobile-test/cookie.js?rev=1.2&content-type=text/plain
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to update cookies test based on Kai's
suggestions [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
<scribe> ACTION: Dom to request a CVS account for Kai [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[Kai, BTW, you suggested the removal of the data: uri test:
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Apr/0005.htm
l :) ]
[20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2008Apr/0005.html
Kai: what about the data: uri test? do you think that's a good idea
Wilhelm: we could include it as part of the canvas test
dom: I would support having this as part of the canvas test
<scribe> ACTION: Wilhelm to update canvas test to use data: URL
scheme [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
Kai: I've also noticed data-attribute being discussed on HTML5
dom: probably too early for inclusion in the test
Mobile Browser Concurrency Test
[22]http://www.cloudfour.com/36/mobile-browser-concurrency-test/
[22] http://www.cloudfour.com/36/mobile-browser-concurrency-test/
Dom: a performance test for mobile browsers
... is performance a good topic for our next deliverable?
Wilhelm: sounds good
Kai: +1
next meeting
Dom: next meeting on July 22nd
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to request a CVS account for Kai [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to propose a test case around DOM mutation events
[recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Kai to update the onload event in xhtmlhttprequest.js
[recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to update canvas test to use data: URL scheme
[recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Wilhelm to update cookies test based on Kai's
suggestions [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2008/07/01-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[DONE] ACTION: Dom to review the DOM Level 2 Style sheet test case
proposed by wilhelm [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[DONE] ACTION: Kai to propose an updated AJAX test with onload (or
other event) added [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[28] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-mwts-minutes.html#action06
[29] http://www.w3.org/2008/06/24-mwts-minutes.html#action07
[End of minutes]
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