- From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:03:33 +0100
- To: public-mwts@w3.org
Hi,
The minutes of our teleconf are available at:
http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html
linked from:
http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/
and copied as text below. Thanks Allen for scribing!
Dom
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Mobile Web Test Suites Working Group Teleconf
13 Mar 2007
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Mar/0016.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-irc
Attendees
Present
Allen, dom, Carmelo, Dmitri, Jenice (NIST)
Regrets
Till
Chair
Dom
Scribe
Allen
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Mobile Web Test Suites survey and re-packaging
2. [6]looking for feedback from user agent developer
3. [7]CSS test suite
* [8]Summary of Action Items
_________________________________________________________
Mobile Web Test Suites survey and re-packaging
<dom> ACTION: Carmelo to send a pointer to how his framework is used
in XML Query test suite [recorded in
[9]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[9] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action02
<dom> [10]Carmelo's framework used in XML Query test suite
[10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Mar/0018.html
<dom> ACTION: [DONE] Carmelo to send a pointer to how his framework
is used in XML Query test suite [recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[11] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action02
<dom> ACTION: [DONE] Allen to explore the possibility to have a
wrapper for the test suites [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[12] http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09
<dom> [13]Allen's notes on test harness
[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Mar/0014.html
<dom> ACTION: [DONE] Dom to work on prototype of test
navigation/results recording based on Allen's proposal [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[14] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action04
<dom> [15]Dom's message about prototype harness
[15] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Mar/0013.html
Dom sent the prototype harness last week
Got some feedback from Allen and Carmelo
The harness is a simple PHP script.
Added three button at the end of the page
Applied to CSS mobile test suite
Harness may interfere with the test.
Carmelo: how the harness find the test?
Dom: list of test is hard coded in the script
... list of test should be managed by web server in future
... results table not very readable
<dom> [16]Results table for CSS MP
[16] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/mth/results?ts=cssmp
Dom: hard to see results table on mobile phone
... would be good to have a link to the results table at the end of
test execution
<dom> [17]Allen's comments on harness
[17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Mar/0014.html
dom: harness will get user agent from header
... results table gather results of all test runs from different
agents
... no notion of single test run
... will have the way to filter result
... aggregate results are also interesting
Carmelo: results table will become large. Will be good to filter out
results from other test runs.
will be good to have a notion of test session
<dom> ACTION: Dom to look at implementing an id for test session
[recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
should have the ability to easily add/remove tests
dom: Harness already reads test from URI
... difficult to input annotation on the cell phone.
... will be good to go through the test suite on the desktop browser
at the same time
need random access to the tests
dom: not difficult to do
Dmitri: what about the progress bar
dom: not difficult to do
Carmelo: is it possible to run only a few tests?
dom: possible with the notion of session
<dom> [19]Carmelo's comments on test harness
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Mar/0017.html
dom: anybody to help with harness development in PHP?
Carmelo: may help with meta data. not familiar with PHP.
dom: if interested, let me know. need to set up access.
<dom> ACTION: Dom to request a CVS account for carmelo to access the
test harness [recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
<dom> ACTION: Dom to send test harness code to mailing list
[recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
dmitri: Can dom send the scripts?
dom: will do.
<Carmelo> Carmelo ---- Remember to put Harness on agenda for next
week.
<dom> ACTION: [PENDING] Dom to try and get in touch with user agent
developers (OpenWave and Nokia) [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[22] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05
looking for feedback from user agent developer
Nothing new at this time
<dom> ACTION: [DONE] Carmelo to look into transforming the XML into
javascript files for making them easier to run on mobile devices
[recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07
<dom> ACTION: Till to get feedback from his Opera colleagues on
making the Javascript more usable on mobile devices [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
[24] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08
<dom> [25]DOM Test Suite made mobile friendly
[25] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/dom-tests/
dom: DOM test suite is not compatible with the harness.
... some work needed to make it friendly to the harness.
... need some feedback from Till
CSS test suite
<dom> ACTION: [DONE] Carmelo to take a closer look at CSS for
coverage [recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07
<dom> [27]Carmelo's analysis of CSS MP test suite coverage
[27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Mar/0011.html
<dom> ACTION: [PENDING] Dom to ask for feedback on the mailing list
about WCSS vs CSS MP Test Suite? [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
[28] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action12
dom: chair of CSS working group sent offer of collaboration.
<dom> [29]Response from Bert Bos on collaborating on CSS MP Test
Suite
[29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-mwts/2007Mar/0002.html
dom: they are interested to get feedback, suggestion for problems in
the test suite.
... but not enough resources to work on them
... encourage us to put more effort on it
<dom> ACTION: Dom to get back to Bert on CSS MP collaboration
[recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
Dom: Discussion with Bert will help us determine which test suite we
should focus on.
... Open testing framework for the Mobile Web survey is still
running.
<dom> [31]Results of survey
[31] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/mwits/results?view=compact
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to get back to Bert on CSS MP collaboration
[recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action13]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to look at implementing an id for test session
[recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to request a CVS account for carmelo to access the
test harness [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Dom to send test harness code to mailing list
[recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Till to get feedback from his Opera colleagues on
making the Javascript more usable on mobile devices [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08]
[36] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action08
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to ask for feedback on the mailing list about
WCSS vs CSS MP Test Suite? [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Dom to try and get in touch with user agent
developers (OpenWave and Nokia) [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05]
[37] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action12
[38] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action05
[DONE] ACTION: Allen to explore the possibility to have a wrapper
for the test suites [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09]
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to look into transforming the XML into
javascript files for making them easier to run on mobile devices
[recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to send a pointer to how his framework is
used in XML Query test suite [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action02]
[DONE] ACTION: Carmelo to take a closer look at CSS for coverage
[recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07]
[DONE] ACTION: Dom to work on prototype of test navigation/results
recording based on Allen's proposal [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action04]
[39] http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09
[40] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07
[41] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action02
[42] http://www.w3.org/2007/02/06-mwts-minutes.html#action07
[43] http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-mwts-minutes.html#action04
[End of minutes]
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