- From: Nathan Eagle <nathan@mit.edu>
- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:11:09 +0300
- To: "Ken Banks, kiwanja.net" <ken.banks@kiwanja.net>
- CC: 'stephane boyera' <boyera@w3.org>, 'Charles McCathieNevile' <chaals@opera.com>, public-mwi-ec@w3.org, jan.chipchase@nokia.com
I'm seeing the same thing in Kenya - the Motorola is available in the small town I'm living in, but i don't know anyone who is considering buying it. The vast majority (>90%) of mobile phone users here don't buy new phones, but rather ones like Ken showed in that photo. And people who are willing to spend 40 bucks on a phone can get a much fancier (used) phone with a camera and color screen for that kind of money... I'm cc:ing Jan Chipchase on this conversation as well. He is a researcher/designer at Nokia working in this space on projects such as developing phone interfaces for illiterate users in the developing worlds. -n. Ken Banks, kiwanja.net wrote: > Hello all > > I tend to agree with Stephane's comments, particularly in the light of my > feelings about developing appropriate solutions to whatever the actual need > is. I'm not sure if we really know this yet. > > A friend of mine took this picture for me LAST MONTH at a market in India. > Just as a point of reference, these are the kinds of phones being purchased > by many in that country in poorer (and maybe not-so-poor) areas today: > > http://www.kiwanja.net/gallery/handsets/kiwanja_handsets_13.jpg > > We all had deep discussions about handset entry points, and where we looked > to start provision of mobile web. Again, I'm not sure if this was decided. > Do we build for a minimum of a mini-WEB browser, with colour screen etc. or > consider earlier monochrome, WAP-enabled devices like some of these? > > Ken > > > -----Original Message----- > From: public-mwi-ec-request@w3.org [mailto:public-mwi-ec-request@w3.org] On > Behalf Of stephane boyera > Sent: 12 February 2007 07:14 > To: Charles McCathieNevile > Cc: public-mwi-ec@w3.org > Subject: Re: White paper on the potential next steps on mobile web in > developing countries > > > > >> In looking at guidelines for developing mobile applications, this work > should be >> coordinated wth the existing work on Mobile Web Best Practices, with a > goal of >> ensuring that there is a seamless transition from feature phones to > high-end >> expensive mobile tablet type devices. It is also important to include > hardware >> manufacturers and network operators in this kind of discussion (as we have > >> already done in Mobile Web Best Practices). But even more important is to >> include people who are deploying applications. > > Yes exactly ! just a small comment. I'm not sure it was that clear in my > doc. > My view is that we should not develop guidelines focused on mobile > applications, which should be more the work on MWI-BP group, but we > should develop guidelines on how to make successful ICT projects aimed > at underpriviledged population or rural communities. During the workshop > in bangalore, we listened to few presentation which explained the > importance of the social, cultural, human aspects to make successful > services. It is what i've in mind. Probably those guidelines are partly > global, and may also have some parts depending on the region. > >> The suggestion of a text based browser is an interesting one. While in > principle >> the web should work fine on such a browser, I am not sure that the > intermediate >> step is as valid now as it was in the early days of the web. It seems that > >> graphics capability is relatively much cheaper (compared to computing > power) >> than it was then, and by the time you have the capacity to put networking > and >> web page processing on the phone, you generally have the power to put a > full >> browser there. > > My personal feeling is that as of today we are missing numbers about > what are the capabilities of the vast majority of phones available in > developing countries. I think before going one way or the other, we > would focus on getting those numbers. > That said, the current specification of the wining Emerging Market > Handset (motorola c113a) is pretty low : > http://direct.motorola.com/Eng/Web_full_specs.asp?Country=AFR&language=ENG&p > roductid=30403&strPrimaryOption=FS&lSecondaryOption=-1 > : > Display : monochrome 96 x 64 pixels > > (however no info on available memory, cpu browser, and what could be the > footprint of a potential browser) > > > > Stephane
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