Re: Hello all

Thank you.  I have a question.  I was looking at this site and they
reference DeviceAtlas.  In the examples of using DeviceAtlas they show all
we pass is a UserAgent.   Based on my short experience, the headers don't
always tell you what the device is.

For example:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.20) Gecko/20080829
Firefox/2.0.0.20

This User Agent did come from a HTC Touch phone, using SkyFire.   How does
DeviceAtlas handle this?   The only way I can think of handling this is to
know the name and header info for every company that does this type of
service.  As you well know that would be a maintenance nightmare.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:02 PM, <Lauri.K.Hirvonen@nokia.com> wrote:

>  Hello Gavin, welcome to the Mobile Internet
>
> I know dotMobi well. I'm one of the founders.
>
> They have free developer site:
>
> http://mobiforge.com/
>
> Look the chain of advice they offer:
>
>  Starting <http://mobiforge.com/Starting>
> Designing <http://mobiforge.com/Designing>
> Developing <http://mobiforge.com/Developing>
> Testing <http://mobiforge.com/Testing>
> Running <http://mobiforge.com/Running>
>
> For Multimedia and video look this page:
>
>
> http://mobiforge.com/developing/story/audiovideo-playback-streaming-support-mobile-devices
>
>
> The guide for "device detection" is done by W3C.
>
>
> dotMobi provides then the "parameters of most of the mobile devices" in
> their Device Atlas:
>
> http://deviceatlas.com/
>
> When you register to be dotMobi developer (it is free) they get the
> free access to the Device Atlas.
>
> Br. Lauri
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* public-mw4d-request@w3.org [mailto:public-mw4d-request@w3.org] *On
> Behalf Of *ext Gavin Landon
> *Sent:* 10 July, 2009 00:19
> *To:* public-mw4d@w3.org
> *Subject:* Hello all
>
>   Hello all, I've just signed up and hope to learn a few things about
> Mobile detection via web.
>
> Background: I'm old C++ guys with 15 or so languages I've used over the
> last 20 year.  13 of those years are in Web Development.
>
> I'm currently looking into the detection of cell phones from a website,
> then validating speed, validating if streaming exists, screen sizes, OS
> type, etc..
>
> I've started building something that will capture this info so I can start
> analysing headers..
> http://www.dp.bz - my test bed
>
> I've looked at things like MOBI and MobileMultimedia, which seems to be
> where I'm going.  But rather not pay for something, I think I can build
> myself pretty easily.  For starters, I just want to figure out if someone
> comes to my site, if I can stream them videos or not.  If they can stream
> then based on speed what type of video and what bit rate..
>
> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>
> --
> Gavin
>
>


-- 
Gavin