- From: Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:57:56 +0200
- To: Renjish Kumar <renjish.kumar@gmail.com>
- Cc: public-mw4d@w3.org
Hello Renjish, > Sorry to interrupt the ongoing discussion on illiteracy and internet. > It is indeed interesting but I just seem to get the idea that we are > again beginning yet another X4D forum with presumptions and > over-simplifications. As you know, many industry players and industry > bodies have ongoing projects and initiatives focusing on > developing/emerging countries handling different aspects of an issue so > complex that discussion without a common framework might lead us nowhere. I would be happy to learn about existing initiatives if you know any ? I know that lots of organizations are funding reports or projects (just to cite some: the world bank, UN foundation, GSMA development funds,...), but i'm not aware at this point of an existing initiative looking at the barriers and potential solutions of leveraging the number of content and services available on mobile phones targeted at social and economic development. So, i would be happy to learn about related initiatives with who we could cooperate, or at least as you say avoid reinventing the wheel. > Some of the presumptions that I can gather based on the discussions here: > > 1. By default, everyone in the emerging/market is eager to use the > mobile web. that a strong statement. To the best of my knowledge, the technological aspect is not key. what i mean here is that people are eager to use services that are helping them in their life. Being mobile web, sms, voice,... they don't really care, as far as the service is relevant, usable and useful imho. > 2. Only issues stopping them from using mobile web or for that matter > Web are technological or economics in nature i'm not sure i agree again here. My own vision is that for now, there is not on the Web informations and services that are either usable, accessible, or even existing that are really useful for targeted people. while i guess you could find any bus or train schedule for any destination in europe, you can hardly find this information about eg rural areas of Uganda, and this is something that could surely be useful to people. So, clearly accessing information is a problem, but availatities of relevant information is also a problem, and most probably a bigger one. So clearly leveraging the development of relevant informations, and empowering people to develop the service their community need is very important. > 3. Developing/Emerging markets are homogenous in nature with the same > economic status, literacy rate, aspirations and culture again i doubt it. just a small example: in latin america, where most of the population speak spanish, the language is not a real problem, and for isntance it is quite easy to develop voice service, because generating spanish prompt is easy, and doing voice recognition on spanish is also quite easy. Now if from your observation you state that voice applications are very powerful, then you move to india or indonesia you are completely out: no TTS in most local dialects, no speech recognition and so on. If you move to Africa, where people are reluctant to talk to a machine, you have another kind of problem. So i really doubt that emerging markets are homoegenous for the factor you stating. > I do not know if the MW4D IG is working on a framework or if some other > forum might have already done this. If not, then we should, in my > opinion, strive to do the following: > > 1. Framework: Create a framework document as the first deliverable with > the following definitions: > - defining the scope of mobile web > - a classification of the heterogenous nature of an > emerging/developing market. For sure, we need to work first, and that's my idea, on a vision document: what this group is willing to achieve, on short term like 1 year, and on a longer term. It is clear for us at W3C that this group is the beginning of a bigger activity in the future, but we need to start small, and really idenitfy the key apsects to work on, before engging greater forces. > Unless we do this, we cannot have a constructive discussion that leads > to tangible results. In other words, we might again end up being "just > another project on development" with lots of nice and informative 200 > page deliverables, but creating little practical change in reality. i completely agree with you, and my own vision is exactly on practical results, not doing a kind of state of the art, or yet another report. The aim of this group is clearly for W3C and/or other internation organizations to understand what are the key actions to launch in the future to really exploit the full potential of mobile phones as an ICT-platform. > 2. Leverage and Liaison: There is already an enormous wealth of > information generated by other forums such as ICT4D, GSMA, W3C and > industry players. Leverage the existing literature and liaison with > ongoing efforts to avoid reinventing the wheel. i totally agree here. If you can provide links to those forums, i would be happy to list them. That said, my specific view, which has been largely confirmed during the workshop in Brazil, is that for now different players have different views, and are acting in their corner: international organizations like the World Bank, UN* (foundation, DP, ...) and other at that level, have a specific view (providing very heigh level platform). industry layers at GSMA for instance have another view (focused on technological aspect), NGOs who are trying to have an impact at a smaller scale have other kind of views. I've the hope that in this forum we could gather people from all these different communities in order to build a shared vision of the future, and a shared understanding on what need to be done. Each actor has its role to play. > So, we should not be disappointed if a similar rate of adoption is not > seen for the mobile Web/ Fixed Internet unless there is one such killer > app. Also, we should resist the temptation to prescribe killer > services/applications to the population. This will only add to the failure. i again totally agree here. I don't believe there will be a killer service or application. But i believe that it is possible to create an enabling context for relevant services and content to appear. I don't believe honnestly that the problem is connecting people only, but again is for them to have relvant information that would justify investment in time, in learning and in cost. I don't think there is content today on the web that justify these investments from targeted people. Stephane -- Stephane Boyera stephane@w3.org W3C +33 (0) 4 92 38 78 34 BP 93 fax: +33 (0) 4 92 38 78 22 F-06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France
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