Framework document

Hi Steph, all

I agree that we need to think in terms of a "dual" approach, i.e. what's
possible now on whatever mobile devices people have in their hands, and what
might be possible tomorrow when the whole world has an iPhone.

The whole episode with Google Android sums up this topic beautifully, I
think. When it was announced last year, the Android Challenge quickly
followed, seeking to encourage the developer community to build apps for
social good, with a slant on developing countries. I don't know how long
it's going to be before rural populations in developing countries have
Android-powered phones, but it's not going to be for some time yet. Right
now, on the mid-to-higher level devices at least, we have Java, and GPRS,
and a browser. And, of course SMS (on all levels of phones). We're hardly
scratching the surface with these, let alone on something that doesn't yet
exist.

I wrote about this here if you're interested:
http://www.blogspot.kiwanja.net/2007/11/battleship-google-fires-its-new-gun.
html

So, I agree. Let's keep a sense of reality on what we seek to do. The future
doesn't exist yet, but the present does!

Have good weekends.  =)

Ken
www.kiwanja.net 



-----Original Message-----
From: public-mw4d-request@w3.org [mailto:public-mw4d-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Stephane Boyera
Sent: 01 August 2008 08:32
To: Renjish Kumar
Cc: public-mw4d@w3.org
Subject: Re: framework document


I'm ok to use the concept of mobile devices instead of mobile phones. 
That said, i would like to make it clear that the key objective for me 
is to focus on currently installed base of devices, and to take 
advantage on mobile phones/devices which are in the field today, which 
are for now low-end phones in most places.
I believe that in some ways, if we consider mobile phones as a whole, or 
even cover a broader category under mobile devices, we might miss some 
challenges. using a low-end phone as an ict-platform, is not the same 
thing as using a smartphone. and i believe we will have to adresse this 
difference.
my personnal view again is that we have to see what is possible today 
right now, and what would be possible in the future. We have to pave the 
road to this future, but start from where we are today, ie what is in 
the pocket of the targeted people.

stephane

Stephane
Renjish Kumar a écrit :
> Hello,
>    For the vision section, are we not considering mobile 
> "devices" instead of mobile "phones" ? I think we should take a broader 
> view on the type of "mobile" device used for web and not restrict it 
> only to phones. In fact, some handset vendors are already moving towards 
> renaming such mobile phones as mobile/multimedia computers.... In my 
> opinion, mobile web could be over any type of mobile device in future 
> such as UMPC, Tablet PC or the likes. 
>  
> Regards
> Renjish 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> On 7/29/08, *Stephane Boyera* <boyera@w3.org <mailto:boyera@w3.org>>
wrote:
> 
> 
>     Dear all,
> 
>     As committed yesterday during the call, i put online the first
>     version of the framework document.
> 
>     what i did is the following:
> 
>     1- i created from the wiki homepage
>     (http://www.w3.org/2006/12/digital_divide/wiki/ )a new section ""
>     from this section i created a dedicated page for the framework
document
> 
>     2- in the framework document itself, i put few info for those who
>     would get to it without knowing the mw4d group, 2 new sections
>     (editors and contributors) and the original document i send to the
>     list 2 weeks ago.
>     in the editors section, there is now Jeff and myself, but if anybody
>     else interested to join us, you are welcome.
>     in the contributors sectino i listed all people who either
>     participated in one of the 2 teleconferences in which we discussed
>     this topic, or who send comments on my original proposal. I might
>     have missed someone. let me know. For some people i put their
>     affiliations because i knew it, for someother either i didn't know
>     or i was not sure it was appropriate to cite it. Let me know if
>     something needs to be updated for you.
> 
>     3- i didn't yet incorporate all the comments received on the first
>     draft i sent to the list, but i just focused on the first section
>     "vision" which was the focus of yesterday call. I wanted to release
>     this document asap to trigger discussion for next week call. I will
>     update later this week the other sections with the comments received.
> 
>     4- in the vision section, and for other sections in the future too,
>     i believe that we are not in the phasis of writing content, but more
>     about brainstorming. So i decided not to make sentences yet but to
>     have 2 sub-section: one describing what should be in the section,
>     and one just listing ideas and concepts we want to integrate in the
>     section. When we will have consensus on all the ideas we will be
>     able to move to sentences.
> 
>     5- i tried in the vision section to list all the comments, ideas we
>     discussed yesterday, and on the mailing-list, plus one or two more.
> 
>     The document is at
>     http://www.w3.org/2006/12/digital_divide/wiki/mw4dframework
> 
>     now, comments are welcome !!
> 
>     cheers
>     Stephane
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