Re: pitch of notes when staff-lines = 1

Hi Joe,
Quick question: if we used y coordinate on unpitched staffs, how would
ledger lines be supported? Unpitched staffs can have ledger lines (e.g.
crash cymbal), so this might be part of the rationale for using step/octave
rather than Y coordinate. I can certainly see the way in which it does not
make sense to have step/octave on an unpitched staff, but I just want to
make sure we still support ledger lines in those situations.

J. Sawruk

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:20 AM Joe Berkovitz <joe@noteflight.com> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> Thinking about MNX here, what was the rationale behind using step/octave
> rather than a Y coordinate for an unpitched staff? I am sure there is a
> reason but I don't know it, and one point of view could be that step and
> octave are not concepts that make sense on an unpitched staff.
>
> .            .       .    .  . ...Joe
>
> Joe Berkovitz
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> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 4:43 PM, Michael Good <mgood@makemusic.com> wrote:
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>> HI James,
>>
>> Yes, the “if not present” refers to the unpitched element. And yes, it is
>> an error to place pitched notes on a staff with a percussion clef, though I
>> think many importers will handle that gracefully.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2018, at 11:55 AM, James Sutton <jsutton@dolphin-com.co.uk>
>> wrote:
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>> Thanks Michael,
>>
>> Just for complete clarity.
>>
>> 1. "If not present". Does this refer to the percussion clef or the
>> display-step elements?
>> 2. Is it an error to place pitched notes on a staff with percussion clef?
>>
>> best regards
>> James Sutton
>> Dolphin Computing
>> http://www.dolphin-com.co.uk
>> http://www.seescore.co.uk <http://www.dolphin-com.co.uk/>
>> http://www.playscore.co <http://www.dolphin-com.co.uk/>
>>
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>> On 8 Jun 2018, at 17:15, Michael Good <mgood@makemusic.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> This is documented in the MusicXML tutorial at
>> http://www.musicxml.com/tutorial/percussion/staff-lines/. It is also in
>> the XSD documentation for the display-step-octave group: "If percussion
>> clef is used, the display-step and display-octave elements are interpreted
>> as if in treble clef, with a G in octave 4 on line 2. If not present, the
>> note is placed on the middle line of the staff, generally used for a
>> one-line staff.” The tutorial includes some examples.
>>
>> Please let me know if this still seem unclear.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michael
>>
>> Michael Good
>> VP of MusicXML Technologies
>> MakeMusic, Inc.
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2018, at 1:57 AM, James Sutton <jsutton@dolphin-com.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> What is the rule for placing pitched notes on a staff with staff-lines <
>> 5 with a percussion clef (not TAB)?
>> I cannot find this anywhere in the documentation
>>
>> Thanks
>> James Sutton
>> Dolphin Computing
>> http://www.dolphin-com.co.uk
>> http://www.seescore.co.uk <http://www.dolphin-com.co.uk/>
>> http://www.playscore.co <http://www.dolphin-com.co.uk/>
>>
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