- From: Joe Berkovitz <joe@noteflight.com>
- Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:36:26 -0400
- To: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <bathory@maltedmedia.com>
- Cc: public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CA+ojG-YfbgVHH1KP5=ShA2ySv_6hYit9pKQd8-FgsVi_p0m3gQ@mail.gmail.com>
> > The appearance of measures as we know them is a somewhat modern and western > circumstance. The music that I engrave for clients today uses them either > rarely or in methods that are not rooted in 1600-1900 ideology. A major > commission just turned in (from a composer I advise) uses timings and a > continuous scroll of score where the only use of pages is for printing, > cutting up, and taping together. > > I am sure these are considered by some to be minor or disposable > approaches, > and not to be taken to heart when devising a large-scale system. > I assure everyone that the chairs do not consider these approaches to be either minor or disposable. I really hope that we can all put away the idea that there is some sort of fundamental conflict here in terms of scope. The work of this group does not begin and end with CWMN, and we all acknowledge that. Talking as if this conflict existed, is not a good use of our time. If there is a conflict, it is about priorities, not scope. Yes, CWMN is a current focus -- in deference to the many members of the group, large *and* small, who are working in this area and desire an improved semantic approach to its representation. But it is only a current focus, not a direction that irrevocably limits our future accomplishments. I for one look forward to our developing a separate (and, philosophically, equal) encoding that is general enough to accommodate a far wider range of music -- not limited to CWMN, or Western musical culture, or left-to-right, or indeed anything except some kind of two-dimensional canvas. I think we will do that successfully in the end. BUT -- speaking as a software architect -- I think this requires a lot more careful discussion of goals and of the variety of music and accompanying assets that are to be treated. To further this discussion, even though it's not top of mind for many in the CG, I intend to prepare a straw-man proposal to present to the group. It will emphatically not be based on MIDI, nor will it generalize using CWMN as a basis. In particular I'll look at ideas that address a number of fundamental questions that so far have gotten submerged in the noise of the discussion. Some of these include: - the nature of the applications which might generate such a format - arbitrary mapping of graphics to time sequences (since there is not necessarily a rigid notion of time) - arbitrary mapping of time sequences to multiple performances (since no single performance may suffice to capture or illustrate a score) - highlighting ranges or points in time within an arbitrary graphical score (since viewers will desire to know what part of the score a heard performance corresponds to) - arbitrary musical forms (any part of the score may be instantiated at multiple points in time, not just one -- think of repeats) Please: as professionals, let's respect the difficulties of solving these problems and take our time solving them. Not everyone in the group will want to, but I will -- even given the present emphasis on CWMN. In the meantime, please let's honor the multiple interests of this group's members, and consider that it makes sense to have multiple solutions in scope, and that we must necessarily deliver some solutions before others. At least one can be past-facing (CWMN), and leverage the most common understandings that have emerged from Western music notation. Others can be more general in terms of graphics and sound and -- in a tradeoff that few so far seem willing to recognize -- more vague in terms of semantics, making them unsuitable for some applications. Yet other dialects can be semantically oriented, but address notational systems of other [past] cultures that are sufficiently stable to be treated in this way. Best, ...Joe
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