Re: Mordant Specification Inconsistancy

Dear Daniel,

Thank you very much for your quick answer and the links you pointed, very interesting. 
This is exactly what I was expecting for and what I was afraid of. The only way to use the appropriate mordent is to check for historical usages and composer vocabulary. 

Thanks.
Baur Aymeric




> Le 10 juin 2016 à 10:54, Daniel Spreadbury <D.Spreadbury@steinberg.de> a écrit :
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> Unfortunately there seems to be no authoritative answer to this conundrum! As Gerou and Lusk put it[1], "the interpretation of an ornament varies according to the musical period or composer. It is advised to consult detailed references on ornament usage and interpretation."
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> One such authoritative source is Frederick Niemann's "Ornamentation in Baroque and Post-Baroque Music" (Princeton University Press, 1983, ISBN 9780691027074).
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> I spent ages when I was putting SMuFL together trying to get definitive answers to these questions, and in the end had to give up. I tried to follow Niemann's research where possible.
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> Daniel
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> [1] Tom Gerou, Linda Lusk, "Essential Dictionary of Music Notation", Alfred Publishing Co., Inc., 1996, ISBN 0882847309.
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> From:        Baur Aymeric <aymeric.baur@hotmail.fr>
> To:        public-music-notation-contrib@w3.org
> Date:        10/06/2016 08:06
> Subject:        Mordant Specification Inconsistancy
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> Dear All, 
> 
> I've just found an inconsistency in the documentation regarding to the mordent element and any kind of help would be appreciated.
> If you please look at the SMuFL specification: https://w3c.github.io/smufl/gitbook/tables/common-ornaments.html <https://w3c.github.io/smufl/gitbook/tables/common-ornaments.html>chapter 4.46,
> you will see the mordent glyph is the one without vertical line, whereas the inverted-mordent has the line.
> If you now take a look at the musicXML documentation: http://usermanuals.musicxml.com/MusicXML/MusicXML.htm#EL-MusicXML-mordent.htm#kanchor1196 <http://usermanuals.musicxml.com/MusicXML/MusicXML.htm#EL-MusicXML-mordent.htm%23kanchor1196>, you will see the exact opposite. The mordent has a vertical line and the inverted-mordent doesn’t. 
> I performed some quick web searches and it appears that the meaning of the mordent has changed during the history, therefore I can’t decide for myself which is the good one.
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> So does anybody please tell me more about that, or do I miss something ? 
> Best regards.
> 
> Baur Aymeric
> QA engineer at neoScores.
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