- From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:52:55 +0100
- To: "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>
Hi all,
today's minutes are at
http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes
and below as text.
About the meeting time: I proposed - starting next week - noon UTC
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130403T1200
It won't work for everybody, but hopefully we won't need a lot of calls
in the next months - if you want to attend for a specific topic and we
should make a different call time once let us know.
Best,
Felix
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
MLW-LT WG
27 Mar 2013
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0193.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-irc
Attendees
Present
fsasaki, Karl, dF, Jirka, pnietoca, chriLi,
olaf-michael, daveLewis, Yves, philr, AnuarSerikov,
leroy, Ankit, Clemens
Regrets
Chair
felix
Scribe
Jirka
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Meeting time
2. [6]Issues that need review
3. [7]regex for allowed characters
4. [8]comments related to "domain"
5. [9]standoff direction
6. [10]provenance in HTML needed globally?
7. [11]need of its:version at standoff markup?
8. [12]selector attributes
9. [13]allowed characters and utf-8 default
10. [14]disambiguation and term
11. [15]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/l
t/track/issues/112
12. [16]AOB (meetings etc.) and LT-Web specifics
13. [17]Locale Filter changes
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/dra
fts/its20/its20.html#LocaleFilter
14. [18]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=210
84
15. [19]edits for issue-113
16. [20]HTML defaults
17. [21]aob
* [22]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
<fsasaki>
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
lt/2013Mar/0193.html
[23]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0193.html
David ask for adding ISSUE-113 into agenda
Meeting time
<philr> +1 for 13:00 on Wednesdays
Proposal is Wed, 2pm CET
<fsasaki> ACTION: felix to write a mail about call time - 1
p.m. Irishi time, 2 pm CET [recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
[24] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01
<trackbot> Created ACTION-464 - Write a mail about call time -
1 p.m. Irishi time, 2 pm CET [on Felix Sasaki - due
2013-04-03].
Issues that need review
<kfritsche>
[25]http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20
130403T12
[25]
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130403T12
<fsasaki>
[26]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i
ssues/pendingreview
[26]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/pendingreview
Dave volunteers to check issues 70-92
<scribe> ACTION: daveL to check issues 70 to 92 [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
[27] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03
<trackbot> Created ACTION-465 - Check issues 70 to 92 [on David
Lewis - due 2013-04-03].
<scribe> ACTION: Jirka to check issues 100 to 121 [recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
[28] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04
<trackbot> Created ACTION-466 - Check issues 100 to 121 [on
Jirka Kosek - due 2013-04-03].
regex for allowed characters
[29]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i
ssues/67
[29]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/67
<fsasaki>
[30]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a
ctions/385
[30]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/385
<fsasaki>
[31]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a
ctions/385/edit
[31]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/385/edit
<fsasaki>
[32]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a
ctions/430/edit
[32]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/430/edit
Pablo was assigned to this issue instead of Shaun
comments related to "domain"
<fsasaki>
[33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
lt-comments/2013Jan/0022.html
[33]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2013Jan/0022.html
<fsasaki> close issue-75
<trackbot> Closed ISSUE-75 Comments related to "domain".
Issue-75 can be closed
standoff direction
<fsasaki>
[34]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i
ssues/120
[34]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/120
<fsasaki> close issue-120
<trackbot> Closed ISSUE-120 standoff direction.
provenance in HTML needed globally?
<fsasaki>
[35]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i
ssues/123
[35]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/123
<pnietoca>
[36]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/i
ts20/its20.html#provenance-implementation
[36]
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#provenance-implementation
<fsasaki>
[37]https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/blob/master/its
2.0/inputdata/provenance/html/provenance5html.html
[37]
https://github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/blob/master/its2.0/inputdata/provenance/html/provenance5html.html
Felix: should we fix spec or testsuite?
<fsasaki>
[38]http://htmlpreview.github.com/?https://raw.github.com/finnl
e/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/master/its2.0/testSuiteDashboard.html#confo
rmance-classes-overview
[38]
http://htmlpreview.github.com/?https://raw.github.com/finnle/ITS-2.0-Testsuite/master/its2.0/testSuiteDashboard.html#conformance-classes-overview
<fsasaki> (three implementations for html global)
DaveL: As we already have implementations we should align spec.
<Yves_> +1 to change the spec
<philr> +1 to change spec
<fsasaki> ACTION: felix to make change for issue-123 [recorded
in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]
[39] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05
<trackbot> Created ACTION-467 - Make change for issue-123 [on
Felix Sasaki - due 2013-04-03].
<pnietoca> +1 to change the spec
need of its:version at standoff markup?
<fsasaki>
[40]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i
ssues/122
[40]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/122
<fsasaki>
[41]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/i
ts20/its20.html#EX-provenance-html5-local-2
[41]
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#EX-provenance-html5-local-2
<fsasaki> <its:provenanceRecords xml:id="pr2"
xmlns:its="[42]http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its" version="2.0">
[42] http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its
<fsasaki>
[43]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/i
ts20/its20.html#EX-provenance-html5-local-2
[43]
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#EX-provenance-html5-local-2
<fsasaki>
[44]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/i
ts20/its20.html#EX-provenance-local-1
[44]
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#EX-provenance-local-1
<fsasaki> jirka: allow version attribute on standoff elements
in XML
<Yves_> mmm but the parsers see the content of script as XML so
the version should be there
<fsasaki> .. be silent about what to do in HTML, because such
attributes are ignored in HTML
<fsasaki> jirka: this is for XML parser, but the HTML parser
will see content of script as a string
<Yves_> yes as Felix described
<fsasaki> jirka: add the version attribute to standoff element
in spec, and remove them from HTML examples
<Yves_> fine with me
<fsasaki>
[45]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/i
ts20/its20.html#EX-provenance-html5-local-2
[45]
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#EX-provenance-html5-local-2
<fsasaki> example 66
<fsasaki> jirka: and need align the test suite if there are
version attributes in HTML
<fsasaki> .. I'm happy to implement the change in spec, schema
and test suite
<fsasaki> .. if there is consensus about the change
<fsasaki> pablo: if we do the change - test suite files would
only change input files, not output?
<scribe> ACTION: jirka to make changes related to issue-122 in
spec, schema and test suite (add version to standoff, remove it
from HTML examples) [recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06]
[46] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06
<trackbot> Created ACTION-468 - Make changes related to
issue-122 in spec, schema and test suite (add version to
standoff, remove it from HTML examples) [on Jirka Kosek - due
2013-04-03].
<fsasaki> felix: yes, since only content of "script" element is
changed
selector attributes
<fsasaki>
[47]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i
ssues/99
[47]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/99
DaveL: OP was about selecting attributes with CSS, how we will
do it?
<fsasaki> ACTION: felix to make the edit for issue-99 [recorded
in
[48]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07]
[48] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07
<trackbot> Created ACTION-469 - Make the edit for issue-99 [on
Felix Sasaki - due 2013-04-03].
<fsasaki> ACTION: daveL to get back to norbert about issue-99
[recorded in
[49]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08]
[49] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08
<trackbot> Created ACTION-470 - Get back to norbert about
issue-99 [on David Lewis - due 2013-04-03].
allowed characters and utf-8 default
Felix: call with i18n folks tomorrow, details will come
disambiguation and term
<fsasaki>
[50]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/a
ctions/461
[50]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/461
Felix: Christian confirms that this will be done within two
weeks
[51]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/
112
[51]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/112
Felix:Waiting for Arle's edits, he will do these by mid April
AOB (meetings etc.) and LT-Web specifics
Felix: We need to schedule meetings after summer
<Yves_> Can we discuss Locale Filter changes? (addition of
'type')
[52]http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/i
ts20/its20.html#LocaleFilter (I just need to know if I can
update the test suite)
[52]
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#LocaleFilter
Locale Filter changes[53]
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20
.html#LocaleFilter
[53]
http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/drafts/its20/its20.html#LocaleFilter
<fsasaki> "The type can take the values "include" or
"exclude"."
<Yves_> no
<Yves_> yes
<fsasaki>
[54]https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/i
ssues/121
[54]
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/121
<scribe> ACTION: Yves to update test suite in accordance with
issue-121 [recorded in
[55]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action10]
[55] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action10
<trackbot> Created ACTION-471 - Update test suite in accordance
with issue-121 [on Yves Savourel - due 2013-04-03].
[56]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21084
[56] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21084
<fsasaki>
[57]http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=7744&to=7745
[57] http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=7744&to=7745
<fsasaki> "<code>meta</code> elements, if the <code
title="attr-meta-name">name</code> attribute specifies a
metadata name whose value is known to be translatable</li>"
People are asked individually comment on bugzilla if they think
that current HTML5 proposal is wrong.
edits for issue-113
<fsasaki> see our responses from Prague f2f at
[58]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
lt-comments/2013Jan/0162.html
[58]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2013Jan/0162.html
<fsasaki>
[59]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
lt-comments/2013Jan/0158.html
[59]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2013Jan/0158.html
HTML defaults
<fsasaki>
[60]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-
lt/2013Mar/0177.html
[60]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Mar/0177.html
<pnietoca> I will put some comments on bugzilla soon enough
aob
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: daveL to check issues 70 to 92 [recorded in
[61]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: daveL to get back to norbert about issue-99
[recorded in
[62]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to make change for issue-123 [recorded in
[63]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to make the edit for issue-99 [recorded in
[64]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: felix to write a mail about call time - 1 p.m.
Irishi time, 2 pm CET [recorded in
[65]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Jirka to check issues 100 to 121 [recorded in
[66]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: jirka to make changes related to issue-122 in
spec, schema and test suite (add version to standoff, remove it
from HTML examples) [recorded in
[67]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: Yves to update test suite in accordance with
issue-121 [recorded in
[68]http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action10]
[61] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action03
[62] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action08
[63] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action05
[64] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action07
[65] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01
[66] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action04
[67] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action06
[68] http://www.w3.org/2013/03/27-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action10
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