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Re: [All] high level use cases doc and wiki link

From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:30:23 +0100
Message-ID: <512772EF.9000709@w3.org>
To: Dave Lewis <dave.lewis@cs.tcd.ie>
CC: "public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org" <public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com>
Hi Dave,

the issue is a bit complicated, since MLW-LT runs under one charter, the 
ITS IG under another. The ITS IG wiki is easier to use since it has been 
open for a long time anyway. But as you ask right, a lot of wiki content 
is now in MLW-LT.

Am 21.02.13 22:21, schrieb Dave Lewis:
> Felix, all,
> I've no objection to making the wiki public writable, but I think we 
> should strongly encourage the 'netiquette' that anyone planning to 
> write to it also join the public mailing list and participate with 
> community in discussing their contribution. They'd be welcome also I 
> guess to the teleconfs if need be?
> I agree, going with the IG wiki makes sense for longer term continuity 
> and moving soon will minimise disruption overall. Presumably we can 
> leave a redirect up on the multilinguaweb/lt wiki main page.
> I presume also though that spec and best practice discussions will 
> continue on the current lists for the rest of the WG charter, even if 
> the minutes and other work is recorded on the IG wiki?

It may make sense to, let's say in April, move that content to the ITS 
IG. But that may need a re-chartering of the IG. Otherwise, if we move 
stuff later, there will be no time for "community building" in the IG. 
Or we could create a community group http://www.w3.org/community/ ...



> cheers,
> Dave
> On 21/02/2013 20:52, Felix Sasaki wrote:
>> Hi Yves,
>> I agree. At Pablo: I can understand your argument about "leave the 
>> dead alone". But in terms "IG will live longer", Yves is right: not 
>> every organisation in this group will continue to stay in W3C 
>> forever. And still you can participate in an interest group - as long 
>> as you don't do "real standardization".
>> One problem is the charter of the ITS IG, see
>> http://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/ITSIGCharter.html
>> it is focused on ITS 1.0. So we need a re-charter, I guess ...
>> - Felix
>> Am 21.02.13 16:41, schrieb Yves Savourel:
>>> I think it would make sense to use the ITS one:
>>> In the long run the IG would live longer than the WG.
>>> And we have already put some ITS 2.0 info there, like the list of 
>>> the LQI type values and their mapping to various tools.
>>> cheers,
>>> -ys
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Felix Sasaki [mailto:fsasaki@w3.org]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:16 AM
>>> To: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org
>>> Subject: Re: [All] high level use cases doc and wiki link
>>> Am 21.02.13 10:25, schrieb Pablo Nieto Caride:
>>>> Hi Felix,
>>>> I think that a good idea!
>>>> As to what wiki to use, maybe it's better to leave the dead alone :)
>>> Hi Pablo,
>>> in principle you are right ... but one aspect is that in 2 years, 
>>> maybe http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Main_Page
>>> will be dead ... anyway, we should just choose between the two wikis 
>>> and groups - and rather soon, so that we can have links from the 
>>> ITS2 and the to be published BP documents.
>>> - Felix
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Pablo.
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I am wondering whether we should make our wiki editable by everybody
>>>> with a W3C account, and have a link from the high level use cases doc
>>>> at w3.org/TR/mlw-metadata-us-impl (will be life next week) to a 
>>>> wiki page.
>>>> Rationale: The usage scenarios will soon be out of date:
>>>> implementations will evolve, usage scenarios change etc. So having a
>>>> link from the introduction at w3.org/TR/mlw-metadata-us-impl to the
>>>> wiki will allow us to keep info up to date. And if the wiki is public
>>>> write, we can gather a community around it.
>>>> If we do that, me may also want to do it for other to be published 
>>>> "BP"
>>>> documents.
>>>> Now, one more thought is: should this be the MLW-LT wiki - or should
>>>> we move to the (these days rarely used) ITS IG wiki?
>>>> The good thing about the ITS IG wiki
>>>> http://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/Main_Page
>>>> is that everybody can join already. The bad thing is that ... it's 
>>>> "dead".
>>>> So if we go above route, which wiki to use?
>>>> Best,
>>>> Felix
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