RE: More on HTML5 and XHTML5 integration

Hi Jirka and Felix,

 

 

We think that, probably, the best solution is to use “its-*” prefix also for
XHTML5…

 

According to our experience, most XHTML web sites declare the content type
as “text/html” instead of “xhtml+xml” (presumably for compatibility reasons
with legacy browsers) so the parsers “see” the pages as html documents...

 

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De: Pedro Luis Díez Orzas [Linguaserve I.S. SA]
[mailto:pedro.diez@linguaserve.com] 
Enviado el: miércoles, 19 de septiembre de 2012 21:40
Para: Felix Sasaki; Jirka Kosek
CC: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org; giuseppe.deriard@linguaserve.com;
pablo.nieto@linguaserve.com
Asunto: Re: More on HTML5 and XHTML5 integration

 

Dear Felix and Jirka, thank you very much. 

We have the issue for the Online MT system showcase, since we take as input
the HTML content published in real production environment. I copy to
Giuseppe and Pablo to check it.

Best, Pedro 

Pedro Luis Díez Orzas
Presidente Ejecutivo - CEO
Linguaserve I.S. S.A.
Enviado desde mi BlackBerry®

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From: Felix Sasaki <fsasaki@w3.org> 

Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:02:46 +0200

To: Jirka Kosek<jirka@kosek.cz>; pedro.diez<pedro.diez@linguaserve.com>

Cc: public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org<public-multilingualweb-lt@w3.org>

Subject: Re: More on HTML5 and XHTML5 integration

 

Hi Jirka,

 

thanks for this - I have no opinion on this, but taking Pedro in the loop.
Pedro, you said in a different thread that in real life scenario XHTML needs
to be supported. So maybe one of the solutions below would be useful for
you?

 

- Felix

2012/9/19 Jirka Kosek <jirka@kosek.cz>

Hi,

I have just updated

http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values

with its-rules link relation type we use for HTML5. Without such
addition we couldn't claim pages with its-rules as valid.

Also we should settle on syntax used for local categories for XHTML.
With ITS 1.0 situation was easy, we used attributes from ITS namespace,
like its:term.

But for ITS 2.0 we define its-* for HTML5, ie. no namespace, just
prefix. For XHTML5 we can decide whether to use its-* or its:*. I think
that its-* makes more sense as XHTML5 content can be often parsed by
HTML parser and not XML parser (for example when served with wrong media
type). Using its-* will have benefit of producing consistent parsing
result from both HTML5 and XHTML5 sources.

Of course its:* would be solution more aligned with XML "philosophy",
also it would be backward compatible with ITS 1.0. It would be
interesting to hear opinion of implementers.

I think that spec should encourage only one of these two possibilities
for XHTML5 or at least provide some guidance about which syntax to use when.

                                Jirka



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